Comments on: Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/ The Blog for Those Who Fly & Those Who Want to Fly Smarter Tue, 15 May 2012 20:37:29 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Court Rules Against Ryanair Charging For Boarding Passes - Flying With Fish http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-188033 Court Rules Against Ryanair Charging For Boarding Passes - Flying With Fish Mon, 17 Jan 2011 01:37:07 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-188033 [...] in May 2009 I wrote about Ryanair’s fee for passengers to check in here – Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers . Ryanair’s boarding pass fee isn’t uniform, the fee is based in variables … but no [...] [...] in May 2009 I wrote about Ryanair’s fee for passengers to check in here – Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers . Ryanair’s boarding pass fee isn’t uniform, the fee is based in variables … but no [...]

]]> By: Ryanair vs The Violin : Blame The Passenger Not The Airline - Flying With Fish http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-154279 Ryanair vs The Violin : Blame The Passenger Not The Airline - Flying With Fish Tue, 31 Aug 2010 18:27:03 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-154279 [...] The Incorporated Society of Musicians senior legal advisor David Abrahams added “The idea that musicians should be forced to purchase an additional seat on board an aircraft because...” [...] [...] The Incorporated Society of Musicians senior legal advisor David Abrahams added “The idea that musicians should be forced to purchase an additional seat on board an aircraft because…” [...]

]]> By: Ancillary Revenue Fees For U.S. Airlines Net US$7.8 Billion Last Year! - Flying With Fish http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-140629 Ancillary Revenue Fees For U.S. Airlines Net US$7.8 Billion Last Year! - Flying With Fish Tue, 04 May 2010 12:33:05 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-140629 [...] such earning potential available through ancillary revenues, and airlines such as Ryanair charging passengers to check-in and Spirit Airlines charging for carry-on baggage, it is unlikely we’ll see a trend or [...] [...] such earning potential available through ancillary revenues, and airlines such as Ryanair charging passengers to check-in and Spirit Airlines charging for carry-on baggage, it is unlikely we’ll see a trend or [...]

]]> By: Flying With Fish » What Is A Low Cost Carrier? http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-108093 Flying With Fish » What Is A Low Cost Carrier? Wed, 01 Jul 2009 06:05:28 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-108093 [...] carriers, while actually not being low cost once all the fees are added up, as I detailed here: 18/05/2009 – Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers, and other airlines claim to be a low cost carrier such as US Airways that maintains a full [...] [...] carriers, while actually not being low cost once all the fees are added up, as I detailed here: 18/05/2009 – Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers, and other airlines claim to be a low cost carrier such as US Airways that maintains a full [...]

]]> By: Flying With Fish » The Airfare Discrepancy, What You See Is Not What You Get…Its Not Just Low Cost Carriers http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-106931 Flying With Fish » The Airfare Discrepancy, What You See Is Not What You Get…Its Not Just Low Cost Carriers Sun, 31 May 2009 16:52:53 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-106931 [...] Earlier this month I wrote about ‘The Real Coast Of Some Low Cost Carriers’ in this post: 18/05/2009 – Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers [...] [...] Earlier this month I wrote about ‘The Real Coast Of Some Low Cost Carriers’ in this post: 18/05/2009 – Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers [...]

]]> By: » Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers - SimpliFlying || Aviation :: Branding :: Technology || Airline marketing, airline brand management, social media, Web 2.0 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-106799 » Ryanair’s New Fee To ‘Check In’ & The Real Cost Of Some Low Cost Carriers - SimpliFlying || Aviation :: Branding :: Technology || Airline marketing, airline brand management, social media, Web 2.0 Fri, 29 May 2009 07:01:58 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-106799 [...] This is a cross-post from Steven Frischling’s Flying with Fish blog, and the original can be read here. Steven Frischling, aka: Fish, is a self employed photographer, and founder of The Travel [...] [...] This is a cross-post from Steven Frischling’s Flying with Fish blog, and the original can be read here. Steven Frischling, aka: Fish, is a self employed photographer, and founder of The Travel [...]

]]> By: flyingfish http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-106683 flyingfish Wed, 27 May 2009 01:02:19 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-106683 James, My article is not biased towards Air France. I chose two cities completely at random from the Ryanair route map. When I searched fares I found both Air France and Aer Lingus to be a few Euros apart in costs, and then chose to write about Air France. Forget all the differences in amenities and focus entirely on the cost and you'll see that with ground transportation costs and convenience factors that from a finance stand point Air France is more cost effective than Ryanair. I have compared Ryanair city pairs to other airlines for my own personal information quite a few times. Often I find that when all the costs are added in, Ryanair is not the clear choice as a cost effective option. Comparing Ryanair's London-Standstead (STN) to Stockholm-Skavsta (NYO) I have found comparable fares on British Midland/BMI and lower fares on British Airways for London-Heathrow (LHR) to Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN) for travel on the same dates. When other factors are added in BMI and BA were the clear winners financially. Comparing Ryanair's flight costs between Milan & Rome there are multiple flights that are of comparable fares on same dates, at similar travel times on both Alitalia and Lufthansa Italia once you factor in all of Ryanair's fees. My sampling for my own information is generally at random. I pick a random date and travel time, and depending on the info I want I pick specific city pairs or random city pairs. On some routes Ryanair is more cost effective, however they are rarely vastly more cost effective. More often than not they win out by a few Euros, and this cost is often eaten up by traveling from far-off airports to the primary city destinations...such as Ryanair marketing Bratislava Airport (BTS) in Slovakia as a Vienna (VIE), Austria metro airport. It's not terribly far from Vienna, but it certainly not a Vienna airport. Its hard to be one sides when looking at travel primarily from a strictly numbers point of view. Happy Flying! -Fish James,

My article is not biased towards Air France. I chose two cities completely at random from the Ryanair route map. When I searched fares I found both Air France and Aer Lingus to be a few Euros apart in costs, and then chose to write about Air France.

Forget all the differences in amenities and focus entirely on the cost and you’ll see that with ground transportation costs and convenience factors that from a finance stand point Air France is more cost effective than Ryanair.

I have compared Ryanair city pairs to other airlines for my own personal information quite a few times. Often I find that when all the costs are added in, Ryanair is not the clear choice as a cost effective option.

Comparing Ryanair’s London-Standstead (STN) to Stockholm-Skavsta (NYO) I have found comparable fares on British Midland/BMI and lower fares on British Airways for London-Heathrow (LHR) to Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN) for travel on the same dates. When other factors are added in BMI and BA were the clear winners financially.

Comparing Ryanair’s flight costs between Milan & Rome there are multiple flights that are of comparable fares on same dates, at similar travel times on both Alitalia and Lufthansa Italia once you factor in all of Ryanair’s fees.

My sampling for my own information is generally at random. I pick a random date and travel time, and depending on the info I want I pick specific city pairs or random city pairs. On some routes Ryanair is more cost effective, however they are rarely vastly more cost effective. More often than not they win out by a few Euros, and this cost is often eaten up by traveling from far-off airports to the primary city destinations…such as Ryanair marketing Bratislava Airport (BTS) in Slovakia as a Vienna (VIE), Austria metro airport. It’s not terribly far from Vienna, but it certainly not a Vienna airport.

Its hard to be one sides when looking at travel primarily from a strictly numbers point of view.

Happy Flying!

-Fish

]]> By: James Avery http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/2009/05/18/ryanairs-new-fee-to-check-in-the-real-cost-of-some-low-cost-carriers/comment-page-1/#comment-106651 James Avery Tue, 26 May 2009 12:04:18 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/flyingwithfish/?p=826#comment-106651 This article is heavily biased towards the alleged benefits of Air France over Ryanair. Most passengers don't care about many of these issues, but more to the point, why have you picked Shannon as an origin point? Ryanair offer more routes from Shannon than any other airline could ever possibly consider - code share partners and connections are irrelevant when you can go direct point to point. That's what consumers really want. This article is heavily biased towards the alleged benefits of Air France over Ryanair. Most passengers don’t care about many of these issues, but more to the point, why have you picked Shannon as an origin point? Ryanair offer more routes from Shannon than any other airline could ever possibly consider – code share partners and connections are irrelevant when you can go direct point to point. That’s what consumers really want.

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