It’s time for another Vintage Airline Seat Map and I’ve selected one of two United Airlines Boeing 767-200 configurations seen flying the skies in 1998.

The version appearing below operated domestically (I believe exclusively) as it lacked flight attendant crew rest seats. The other layout I’ll post in a future installment and it had two rows of dual (coach) crew rest seats where 10A is located on this map.

In first class, I particularly enjoyed 2A on this aircraft and either 5A or 6A in business. Rows 10 and 11 weren’t any fun given the proximity of the lavs and galley, though the single seats were unique. I never flew in economy on this bird (was fortunate as a non-revver to always get the premium cabins), but I’d probably opt for 15AB or 15FG if legroom was as good as it looks.

Where would you sit?

United 767-200 MT Seat Map

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Here’s United’s original international configuration of their Boeing 767-300 fleet for this installment of Vintage Airline Seat Maps.

Seating a total of 206 passengers, first class offered 10 seats in the 2-1-2 configuration, business class (then called Connoisseur Class) was in the typical 2-2-2 layout with 38 seats and coach seated 158 passengers in the 2-3-2 format.

Rows 13 and 14 were the crew rest seats on international flights, but were often available for revenue passengers when this aircraft flew domestic routes. The first class seats did recline to 180 degrees, as I recall, and seat pitch in business class was actually pretty tight by today’s standards (about 42”).

I worked for United in 1998 and loved non-revving on this bird. My favorite seats were 2A/F and 6A/F. Truth be told, I was fortunate to have always scored a first or business seat back then. I’d go for 16A/G in economy, of course, if I had to pick. Keep in mind this was pre-Economy Plus.

Where would you sit?

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It’s time for another Vintage Airline Seat Map and I’ve selected a United Airlines Boeing 767-200 seen flying the skies in 1987.

I have a United seating guide from 1979 that listed the planned configuration for the 767-200 as being 24 in First and 173 in coach once it was delivered in 1982, so this bird has an “extra” row in coach than what was initially proposed. I’m unsure of the originally delivered configuration.

You’d find me in 2A or 2G in First Class or definitely in that first section of coach just behind First.

Where would you sit?

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Here’s an American Airlines Boeing 767-200 from 1987 for this installment of Vintage Airline Seat Maps. Seating a total of 184 passengers, First Class seated 14 people in a 2 x 1 x 2 configuration, Business Class offered 30 seats in the common 2 x 2 x 2 layout and economy sat 140 passengers in the typical 2 x 3 x 2 format.

The current version flying American’s premium routes today from JFK-LAX/SFO have a slightly different configuration for 168 passengers (10/30/128). A combination of a smaller First cabin and enhanced pitch of about 34” in economy account for the difference in seating capacity.

On the version appearing below, you’d find me in 3A in First, 9A or 9J in Business and 17A in coach.

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An article appeared yesterday over at the Msnbc.com travel blog Overhead Bin entitled “Do you pay attention to airplane safety videos?” The writer admits she tunes the videos out when they begin having heard them countless times in the past. Experiencing severe turbulence on a recent flight, though, she checked for the lifejacket under the seat (it wasn’t there) and realized she had no idea how to open the overwing exits next to her. It was a reality check for her and it reminded me of my experience going through a mock crash at the United Airlines Denver Flight Training center (DENTK) in 1993 when I was an intern.

I boarded the full-sized sectional mock-up of a Boeing 767 with the rest of my group of interns and sat down with a smirk on my face. “Ha,” I thought, “I’ve flown a couple hundred thousand miles by now, this should be a piece of cake.” I was so cockily certain I’d get myself out in 90 seconds.

The flight attendants running the evacuation drill on the fully automated hydraulic simulator stated that beyond making their “Release seatbelts! Get out, leave everything behind!” commands after crashing, they would not assist in the process to evacuate.

Image courtesy United Airlines

We were airborne and the simulator had all the sounds and movement sensations of your typical 767. An emergency was declared and we were told to get into brace positions. Upon crashing (a slightly moderate jolt), the lights went out, smoke filled the cabin and it was pitch black. We were slightly askew in angle and the flight attendants shouted their command to release seatbelts.

I honestly don’t recall if the floor lights were on, but I do remember waving my hand in front of my face not being able to see a thing. The smoke smelled real and I began making my way to door 1L, the closest to where I was seated. I’d be lying if I said my heart wasn’t racing just a little.

I absolutely couldn’t believe the disorientation I was experiencing and struggled to gain my footing enough to feel my way up the row while bumping into everyone. After a few rows I thought I had reached the door, but instead found another row of seats. It seemed like an eternity, but I was the first to find the door and called back to everyone to come forward.

Did I remember to check outside for fire or impassable debris? Of course not. I was feeling for the handle and absolutely could not find it. My hands were frantically sweeping over all parts of the door while several more of my fellow interns started doing the same.

The lights came up to reveal a heavily smoke filled cabin and one of the flight attendants exclaimed, “Times up! You’re all dead. And had you opened that door you would have escaped into a burning fire.” I was so pissed.

That was my eye opening experience and I think most airlines leave off their safety videos the two most important things I learned that day:

  1. The common statement heard on videos today, “To open the exit, move the handle in the direction of the arrow,” is all fine and good with proper lighting, but if visibility is as poor as what I experienced, you need to know where the handle even is. So, when boarding I look for the handle position on the entry door or door immediately opposite. Some are built into the door and operate like a lever, some swing widely from left to right, some are on the wall to the right, etc. Now doing this post 9/11 can raise some eyes (“Why are you checking out the door handle?!”), so I tend to be discreet about it. The same goes with the handle location on the overwing exits.

    Image courtesy United Airlines

  2. Count the number of rows between you and the nearest exit. When it was pitch black, had I known how many rows there were between the door and me, I might have made it sooner through feel knowing I had X-more rows to pass. I think Air New Zealand has this in their safety videos, but definitely not United or American. The “locate the exit nearest your seat” statement on the videos only goes so far in that regard.

Do I remember to do this every time I fly? No, honestly I don’t and I again have gotten complacent with my expertise in flying. Hopefully if I were involved in an actual incident, the flight attendants wouldn’t be incapacitated as they were in my drill experience. I bet they got a chuckle out of all of us that day. I don’t really pay attention to the safety videos today either, but do sometimes stop what I’m doing if it’s a live demo and flight attendants are in the aisle.

So I’m curious, do you blow off the safety videos, play along and watch, or sometimes consider counting rows, etc?

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I just read somewhere that Boeing completed production of the 1,000th 767, so this week’s Vintage Airline Seat Map is a Piedmont Airlines 767-200ER. This twin cabin configuration accommodated 210 passengers: 25 in Business Class, and 185 in Coach. I personally liked the single middle seat in the forward cabin, but you’d most likely find me on a window seat such as 1A or 2A if I were in Business Class. The best coach seats look to be in row 6, and maybe the overwing exits at 14A/B and 14F/G, although the proximity to the lavatories might be an issue there.

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