A reader who goes by Ford Prefect alerted me to this limited time offer.  The Southwest Airlines shopping portal (Rapid Rewards Shopping) is offering 15 points per dollar when shopping at Sears.com.  The deal is only good through 5/23 (Wednesday).

Here is an excerpt from an ad Ford Prefect received via email:

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The ad seems to imply that Sears has increased from 3X to 5X as the standard bonus, but is 15X for a few days.  At least, that’s the best translation I can come up with without the help of a Babel fish.

Here is an image captured directly from the shopping portal:

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There are lots of great ways to capitalize on this! 

I’ll follow up Tuesday morning (a bit later than usual, though) with a post detailing some of my ideas, but feel free to comment below with your own.

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On May 9th, in the post “Experiment in progress: Sony 30X,” I described how I used a combination of techniques to attempt to earn 30 points per dollar from a Sony.com purchase.  I had hoped to report success by now, but I can’t.  Not a single bonus point has shown up in my account in the Ultimate Rewards Mall.  However, the experiment is not completely dead…

Background

As a reminder, the experiment went like this:

  • I started with a Visa gift card that was bought at Staples.com.  Currently, the Ultimate Rewards Mall offers 5X bonus points at Staples, and the Ink Bold offers 5X for office supply purchases.  So, by buying Visa gift cards at Stapes through the Ultimate Rewards Mall and paying with an Ink Bold, one can earn 10 points per dollar.  This part of the experiment is pretty safe: it has been proven before.  I didn’t even really test this part – I just used a Visa I had lying around from a previous experiment.
  • I logged into the Ultimate Rewards Mall with my Ink Bold account and clicked through to Sony.  For Ink Bold owners, Sony is currently at 10X AND is listed under “gift cards”.  So I bought myself an e-gift card using my Visa gift card to pay.  If things worked, I would have earned 10X for this part of the experiment.
  • Once I received the gift card, I went back through the Ultimate Rewards Mall to Sony, and bought an iPhone dock using the gift card to pay.  The total purchase amount was $1.49 more than the gift card value so I used my Ink Bold to pay the remainder.  Ideally I would have earned another 10X for this final part of the experiment.

Results

Every day I’ve checked “Ultimate Rewards Mall & Travel Earnings” to see if any points have posted.  So far, not a single point has posted.  Is it time to declare the experiment dead?  Yes, and no…

What went wrong?


Buying the gift card:
I was worried when I bought the e-gift card because I was routed to a different URL for the purchase.  It’s very likely that the failure to get points from this purchase was due to the fact that the purchase was made at cashstar.com instead of sony.com. 

Using the gift card: The Terms and Conditions for Sony in the Ultimate Rewards Mall do not say anything about gift cards so it should be OK.  However, it’s possible that the written terms & conditions are not complete.  So, it may be the case that I didn’t get points because purchases made with gift cards are not eligible for points.  That doesn’t make sense, though, because I did pay $1.49 with the Ink Bold.  Worst case is that I should have received points for 10X of $1.49, but I didn’t even get that.

Terms & Conditions:  I think this is the real reason I didn’t get points for the purchase.  The Terms & Conditions state:

Not eligible on Sony outlet, refurbished, clearance items, and Sony Ericsson locked phones, or Employee Purchase Programs.

Remember that iPod dock I bought?  It was on clearance.  The T&C clearly state that my purchase was not eligible.  In other words, I messed up big time!

Only mostly dead

The Sony experiment was a failure, but it didn’t prove anything other than my ability to make mistakes.  It’s still possible and even likely that the experiment would work under the following circumstances:

  1. Buy physical gift cards which are sold by sony.com.  Don’t buy e-gift cards which are sold by cashstar.com.
  2. Using physical gift cards, buy items that meet the T&C.  Don’t buy Sony outlet items.  Don’t buy refurbished items.  Don’t buy clearance items.  Don’t buy Sony Ericsson locked phones (that’s a weird one).  And, don’t use employee purchase programs.

I will redo this experiment, but unfortunately it will be too late to make a big impact.  The 10X promotion is scheduled to end at the end of this month so it’s unlikely I’ll have results in time for anyone to capitalize on them.

If anyone else has been experimenting with a Sony double dip, please let me know how you faired fared!

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Earlier in the year, Staples advertised a new Free After Rebate (FAR) deal almost every single week.  Since Staples Easy Rebates are true to their name (i.e. they really are “easy”), it was possible to use these deals to easily increase credit card spend by about $1000 per month (to meet minimum spend requirements for sign-up bonuses) and to earn many thousands of free frequent flyer miles by shopping through an online portal such as the Ultimate Rewards Mall

Every Friday, Staples publishes a preview of their weekly ad that takes effect that coming Sunday.  So, every Friday morning I anxiously open their preview with the hope of finding a new FAR deal worth reporting.  Unfortunately, Staples hasn’t offered a big FAR deal since the last one ended on April 14th.  We’ve suffered over a month now without our FAR fix. Come on Staples, we need more!

Will tomorrow’s preview finally bring FAR deals back?  Or, will it be yet another FAR-less Friday?

Note: some FAR deals aren’t reported in the weekly ads so we learn about them when they go live on Sunday.

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On May 1st, I described some great new bonus opportunities in the post “Ultimate Rewards Awesomeness.”  Among other opportunities listed in that post, I wrote:

Sephora at 20X!  Holy cow, that’s a big number.  Someone with a Freedom card, please do a double dip experiment right away!!!

One reader reported that the experiment didn’t work, but another named Matthew reported complete success.  He wrote:

Update: I got an email late last night saying the my UR points for the Sephora purchases has posted. Sure enough, I got 200 pts for a $10 eGift card purchase and then another 200 pts for redemption of that gift card

Great news, right?  This means that Matthew earned 40 points per dollar at Sephora!  Unfortunately (and unbeknownst to me), the 40X deal only lasted until May 8th.  Matthew went on to write the following:

Unfortunately, the email came so late that I was unable to capitalize on the deal bonus before it was reduced to 5x points this morning. It would have been simply amazing to get 10,000 pts for a $250 eGift card purchase and redemption. Well played, Chase. Well played.

Oh well.  Easy come, easy go.


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Frequent Miler leaned over his laboratory workbench to examine the notice more closely.  Could it be true?  Is this real?  He turned quickly to the lab computer and ran a Google search.  Yes, it checked out!  The key to the perfect perpetual point machine was at hand!

Meanwhile, somewhere across the country, fellow schemer Greek2me saw the same notice, but came to a different conclusion.  He saw an opportunity to create a perpetual money making machine…

The notice read:

Dan’s Deals
CVS: Get A Bonus $5 eGift Card For Every $25 eGift Card That You Buy!

Why had a simple notice like this attracted anyone’s attention?

Frequent Miler’s Experiment

I often write about ways to earn huge numbers of points by buying $100 Visa gift cards online.  For example, see “What’s my X?”  If one could find an easy and reliable way to turn those gift cards into cash, then a perfect perpetual point machine would be at hand.  One could buy gift cards with a credit card, earn points, cash out the gift cards, use the cash to pay one’s credit card bill, and repeat.

The CVS deal wasn’t limited to $5 bonus cards.  For example, CVS was selling $100 e-gift cards and giving an extra $20 gift card for free.  So, one could easily convert a $100 Visa card into $120 worth of CVS gift cards!  From there, one could sell the gift cards at a 17% loss and still recoup all of the original $100.  I checked GiftCardGranny and saw that multiple gift card resellers were offering 85% for CVS gift cards!  This meant that a person could not only cash out $100 Visa cards, but they could even make a profit!

Of course I knew this deal wouldn’t last forever, but I was unable to find a stated end date, so I hoped it would last a while.

Greek2Me’s Experiment

Greek2Me bought two $150 eGift cards and received two $30 eGift cards for free.  His plan was to print the gift cards, take them to CVS, and use them to buy Visa gift cards.  If this worked, he could theoretically then use the Visa gift cards to buy more CVS eGift cards, and then repeat the whole process again and again.  Each time, his funds would grow larger!

Frequent Miler’s Story

The first part of my experiment ran without a hitch.  I had no trouble using a $100 Visa card to buy the $100 CVS eGift card.  Within minutes I received both the $100 CVS card and the $20 bonus via email. 

Next, I clicked through to PlasticJungle from TopCashBack to see about selling the cards.  It turned out that PlasticJungle did not allow sales of CVS eGift cards (physical cards only).  OK, on to plan B… 

Next stop was CardPool.  CardPool did accept eGift cards from CVS, but with an 80% payout (instead of 85% offered for physical cards).  Well, OK, I thought… With 4% cash back from TopCashBack, I’ll still do OK.  So I went ahead and sold the $100 gift card for $80.  Since I went through TopCashBack, I expect to earn an additional $4 for this transaction.  At this point, my losses amounted to 16% – still a decent take since I could afford to lose 17% and still break even.

The real trouble began when I tried to sell the $20 e-card.  CardPool would only take denominations of $25 or more!  So, I tried CouponTrade instead.  CouponTrade will take cards worth $20 or more.  Perfect!  Or so I thought…

The CVS gift card sold almost immediately on CouponTrade, but then I received a message to mail the gift card to the buyer.  Uh oh.  I sent a note to CouponTrade saying this was an e-card.  Can’t they just forward it to the buyer?  After some back and forth, it turned out that CouponTrade does not allow sales of e-cards from CVS, so the order was cancelled. 

I now plan to simply print the gift card and use it next time I’m at CVS.

Experiment Result = Fail.

Greek2Me’s Story

Greek2Me took his printed cards to CVS and tried to use them to pay for part of a $500 Visa gift card.  The cashier took the gift cards without complaint and tried to apply them.  Unfortunately, the register itself refused to complete the order.  It said that gift cards could not be used to purchase gift cards. 

Experiment Result = Fail.

Other Options: Nope

Other options still existed to meet our goals, but they are irrelevant now.  The promotion appears to have ended.

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I’m excited about the Club Carlson “Big Night” promotions that will be available for registration May 15th.  The basic idea is that after registering you will get 50,000 bonus points for staying one night at a Radisson, 44,000 points for staying at a Park Inn, and another 44,000 points for staying at a Country Inn & Suites.  The total points you can earn is a ridiculously high 138,000!  For details, please see this post by Loyalty Traveler

If you’re like me, you’re thinking “yeah Club Carlson, that’s nice, but how can I get even more?”  So, here is Frequent Miler’s step by step guide to maximizing the Club Carlson “Big Night” promotions:

Step 1: Sign-up for a Club Carlson account

If you don’t already have a Club Carlson account, New Girl in the Air shows how you can get 4,500 free points just by signing up: 4,500 Free Club Carlson Points (500 Airline Miles) for New Members.  Make sure to sign up everyone in the family! 

NOTE: The 4500 point offer appears to be dead.  I’ll update here if anything changes.

Step 2: Status Match to Gold Status

Club Carlson will readily bump up your elite status to Gold if you can prove that you have high level status in another program.  I used my Priority Club Platinum status to get the match, but most other programs should work just as well.  If you don’t have high level status in any program, then you might want to take advantage of the current Hyatt promotion:

  • Through May 11th, use any Visa Signature card to sign up for temporary Hyatt Platinum status for free: https://www.visasignature.hyatt.com/ 
    Note that it might take a few days for the Platinum status to show up on your account.

Once you’ve signed up for free Hyatt Platinum status (or have status with another program), make a screen capture of your account to prove your status and send the picture in an email to: goldpointsplus@carlson.com.  Ask for a status match.  Ideally you’ll be bumped up to Gold status. 

Club Carlson Gold status will give you extra points and some perks when staying at their hotels:

Gold status benefits:
50% Point Bonus
Late Check-out (based on availability)
Early Check-in (based on availability)
Best Available Room in the category booked
72- hour availability guarantee
Special points plus cash offers
Priority full-service Member Services telephone number

Additional benefits in Europe, the Middle East and Africa:
10% off weekend rates
Double occupancy for a single rate
Weekend Extend (2 for 1 and 4 for 2 Nights)

Step 3: Enroll in Club Carlson for Business

By registering your own business (if you have one) with Club Carlson, you can earn an extra 10 points per dollar for every reservation booked online and linked to your business account.  Here’s the sign-up link: https://www.clubcarlson.com/profiles/secure/business/joinRouter.do

Step 4: Book via TopCashBack

When booking hotel nights, get 5% cash back by starting at TopCashBack and clicking through to Radisson. If booking Country Inn & Suites or Park Inn, go to Radisson.com and then click the “All Carlson Rezidor hotels” radio button:

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UPDATE: TopCashBack will now give 10% cash back!  See “Breaking News: TopCashBack to double Radisson rebate” for more details. 

Step 5: Qualify for the promotion

Stay at least one night in each hotel (Radisson, Park Inn, and Country Inn & Suites) between May 15 and July 15 to qualify.  Radisson ran a similar promotion this past winter and many people found ways to check into hotels without actually staying (I plead the fifth).  This time, Club Carlson plans to police things better.  They, quite reasonably, want people to actually stay in their hotels and get to know (and hopefully love) the brand.  I like the timing of this promotion since it should line up well with many people’s summer vacations.  Take advantage of these promos to take some time off and enjoy the summer!  In my opinion, the value of the points earned in this promo should easily make up for the cost of a night at almost any Club Carlson property.

Add it up

  • Club Carlson Signup bonus: 4,500 points
  • Stay one night in each: Radisson, Park Inn, and Country Inn & Suites.  Assume $100 per night average.  Earn 5% cash back from TopCashBack.  Total cost: $285
  • Promotion points earned: 50K (Radisson) + 44K (Park Inn) + 44K (Country Inn & Suites) = 138,000 points
  • Book online bonus (2000 points per booking for Silver and Gold members): 3 X 2000 = 6,000 points
  • Points earned per dollar (Gold members with business accounts): 40.  $300 X 40 points per dollar = 12,000 points
  • Total cost: $285
  • Total points earned: 160,500
  • Extra credit:

Value of 160,500 points

The value of these points totally depends on how you use them.  I think the highest value is probably at the lowest and highest ends of their properties.  Category 1 property awards cost only 9000 points per night.  Top end category 6 hotels cost 50,000 points per night.

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image_thumb4As I reported recently, the Ultimate Rewards Mall is currently offering Ink Bold customers 10 points per dollar at Sony.com until the end of May.  That’s pretty good by itself, but I always like to see how far we can go.  Can we get 20X by buying gift cards for 10X, and then using them for another 10X? 

Examining the Ultimate Rewards Mall leads me to believe that the gift card double dip just might work.  First, notice that Sony is explicitly listed under gift card offers:

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Second, notice that there are no explicit restrictions against gift card use:

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The Experiment

Of course, I’m not content to settle for only 20X.  So, I started this experiment with a Visa gift card purchased at Staples.com.  Currently, for Ink Bold owners, the Ultimate Rewards Mall gives 5X for Staples.com purchases, and the Ink Bold itself gives another 5X for the office supply category.  So, you get 10 points per dollar when buying Visa gift cards this way at Staples!  There are fees, so the actual bonus is more like 6X overall (see “What’s my X?”), but round numbers like 10X are more fun to write about Smile.

Using the Visa gift card, I logged into the Ultimate Rewards Mall and clicked through to Sony.com.  There I purchased a $25 e-gift card and sent it to myself via a secondary email address.

Once I received the e-gift card (about 20 minutes after purchase), I went back the the Ultimate Rewards Mall, clicked through to Sony again, and bought a $20 iPod dock.  My goal was to keep the entire purchase under $25 so that I could pay entirely with the gift card, but shipping and taxes pushed the total slightly over.  I paid $25 with the gift card and a little over a dollar with my Ink Bold.  In retrospect, I see that I was an idiot because if I had added $5 to my order the $5 shipping would have been free.  Oh well.  They probably don’t sell anything for $5 anyway…

Wait and see

When buying the e-gift card I was routed to a different URL so I’m a little worried about that one.  I’m not sure at all I’ll get points.  I thought about switching to a physical card, but the 10X deal only lasts through May so time is of the essence!

I’m also disappointed that I didn’t pay entirely with a gift card.  If I get points for the iPod dock purchase, I won’t know for certain that points will always be awarded.  Sometimes when paying with a gift card through a shopping portal, you get points only if at least a part of your order is paid by credit card.

It usually takes 4 or 5 days for the Ultimate Rewards Mall to show credit for purchases (via the “Ultimate Rewards Mall & Travel Earnings” menu selection).  I should be able to report back with results next week.

How good would it be?

If all parts of this experiment succeed, let’s look at the bounty:

  • Purchase $100 Visa cards through Staples:
    • Points earned 10X.  Subtract cost of cards and real benefit = 6X.
  • Purchase Sony gift card through Ultimate Rewards Mall:
    • Points earned 10X
  • Purchase Sony merchandise through Ultimate Rewards Mall:
    • Points earned 10X
  • Total estimated “rebate”:
    • Points earned: 26X
    • Value of extra points using Fair Trading Prices = 26X * 1.31 = 34% rebate!

Enough with the Ink Bold already!

People have asked me to find deals and bonuses for other cards.  Not everyone has a Chase Ink card and not everyone can get one.  But the Ink seems to have endless opportunities!  I can’t help myself! 

I will do my best to dig up deals for other cards.  One great one this week requires American Express business cards: see “Up to 14.5% off Amazon and Barnes & Noble.”

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A week ago I revealed an exciting new way to maximize point earnings.  By signing up for an American Express Prepaid card and using a Chase Ink credit card to buy reload cards at Office Depot, you can essentially earn 5 points per dollar for all purchases, and without needing to juggle multiple gift cards.  To learn the basics of how this works, please see the original post for more information: “One card to rule them all”.  If you have further questions, please see the American Express FAQ.

In the past few weeks, I’ve been almost giddy when making purchases.  Buying groceries: 5X!  Buying gas: 5X!  Buying dinner: 5X!  Buying Daily Getaways: 10% off and 5X

So, now that we’ve had a bit of experience using the cards, what have we learned?

Availability

In the FAQ mentioned above, Amex states that the temporary cards are not available in Arkansas, New Jersey, or Vermont; and that the permanent cards are not available in Arkansas or Vermont.  That implies, to me, that NJ residents can order the permanent card online.  However, I believe that you will have to go out of state to find reload cards to buy at Office Depot.

In addition to the stated availability limitations, a few readers have reported being unable to find these cards at their local Office Depot stores.  While most stores do sell them, it seems that some do not.

Buy with credit card

This scheme opportunity relies on being able to buy reload cards at Office Depot using your Ink credit card.  A few people have reported that their local Office Depot did not allow them to use their credit card for these purchases.  In at least one of those cases, the Office Depot manager claimed that you couldn’t use credit cards to buy any gift cards.  Let me assure you that if that is a rule, it is specific to certain stores and not at all what most people have found to be true.  In fact, most readers have reported success in using their credit card to buy reload cards.

Criminal Feelings

A few people have reported that while they were allowed to use their credit cards, the Office Depot personnel made them feel like criminals when purchasing the cards.  I think this comes from the fact that some criminals do buy gift cards and prepaid cards as a way to launder money or to cash out stolen credit cards.  Just remember that there is nothing illegal with what we are trying to do.  And, if you can, try shopping at a different Office Depot.  My local store has been very pleasant to me for all of my purchases.

Link, Like, Love: Not!

A reader who goes by Kadence reported that you cannot link these Amex Prepaid cards to Facebook, Twitter, or Foursquare for additional Amex savings.  Rats!  The Terms & Conditions for all three promotions state: “certain cards are not deemed Eligible Cards, including Prepaid Cards”.  You can see the full T&C here: https://sync.americanexpress.com/facebook/Terms.aspx

International Use

I called Amex and they confirmed that there are no foreign transaction fees with these cards!  Further, you can use these cards at international ATMs.  I asked about Paris, specifically, and was given a large list of banks where the card would work for ATM withdrawals.  I’m not organized enough to actually carry around a list like that (plus I didn’t write them down), but when I’m in France I’ll give it a shot at an ATM or two.  As always, you may be charged a fee by the owner of the ATM, and Amex will charge you $2 per withdrawal after the first withdrawal each month.

Tracking Balance and Expenditures

A reader asked if tools like Mint.com would work for tracking expenditures on these cards.  I was sure that the answer would be no, but I gave it a try anyway.  Amazingly, it worked!  Just add a card of type “American Express Gift Card” and then you can use Mint.com to track your expenses and your balance.  Very nice!

Unfortunately, I tried the same thing without luck with two other apps: Neither GoWallet nor Expensify knew how to handle these cards.

Read My Lips: No Taxes

A few people have been charged sales tax when buying prepaid cards and reload cards.  You should not have to pay sales tax.  If you are charged tax, I’d recommend against completing the purchase.  Sales tax will essentially wipe out the 5X gains.

Debit Cards: Not

People keep asking if these cards can be used as debit cards.  The answer is simple: No.  When using these cards you need to identify them as credit cards.  If you want to earn miles with debit purchases, take a look at the SunTrust debit card recently described by the Frugal Travel Guy.

Other Vendors

I received a number of questions about whether the reload cards could be purchased at Staples or OfficeMax.  Currently, the answer is “no”.  Hopefully they’ll appear in more locations soon.  It’s also my understanding that we are likely to see more reloadable prepaid cards on the market soon to compete with the Amex cards.  Please let me know the second you see one!

Other Options

If you don’t mind using non-reloadable cards, there are plenty of great alternatives: Buy $500 Visa cards at Office Depot (5X); Buy $200 Visa cards at Staples or OfficeMax (5X); Buy $100 Visa cards at Staples.com after clicking through the Ultimate Rewards Mall (10X).  With all of these options, the card fees reduce the true “X” a bit.  To see more about these options, including the “true X”, see: “What’s my X?

Let me know

Whether you’ve been successful or unsuccessful in buying reload cards, please let me know.  Also, if you’ve found any creative ways to use these cards, I definitely want to hear that!

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One of my favorite tricks for saving money while increasing credit card spend is to buy gift cards at OfficeMax using one of my American Express business cards.  Amex business cards come with a perk called OPEN Savings.  With this program, you automatically receive rebates in the form of statement credits when using your card at certain merchants.  With OfficeMax, you currently get back 5% of any purchases of $100 or more (see image).

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I regularly stop by my local OfficeMax to buy gift cards totaling $100 or more. If you can find gift cards you can really use, this can be a big win.  Even $200 Visa gift cards with $6.95 fees are a decent deal: After 5% cash back, you end up with 1.7% in savings.

Sadly, though, this deal is coming to an end.  A friend who goes by the handle greek2me sent me this notice that he received in the mail with his SPG card bill:

OfficeMaxOPENSavings

Starting June 15th, in store purchases won’t count!  Since OfficeMax doesn’t sell gift cards online (other than their own), this will effectively kill the gift card gravy train.

On the other hand, they will start giving 10% back for purchases greater than $250 made online.  This could be quite lucrative if/when OfficeMax carries Free After Rebate products, especially if we stack this discount with points or cash back from a shopping portal.  Also, OfficeMax frequently sells items with 100% back in rewards.  Any time they have enough of these to total $250, I’ll let you know! 

I also wonder what would happen if we bought OfficeMax gift cards online and then used them in store.  Would they allow purchase of other gift cards using their gift card?  It’s unlikely, but you never know.  I guess it’s time to add new experiments to the Frequent Miler Laboratory to-do list!


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After reading my earlier post “One card to rule them all” many people ran out to their local Office Depot stores to buy Vanilla Reload cards with their Ink Bold credit cards.  This is a brief follow up…

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Cash or credit?

So far, most people (with a couple of exceptions) have reported success in buying reload cards with their credit cards (I’ve done it 3 times now). However, many people have mentioned the fact that the reload website (vanillareload.com) is pretty specific about using cash.  Here’s a screenshot for example (the same image is on the back of each reload card):

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I haven’t found any place that specifically says “credit is not allowed”, but that is a reasonable assumption given the text on both this site and the American Express Prepaid site.

So, one question now is whether “cash only” is really a rule, or more of a recommendation.  It’s possible that it is up to each merchant (like Office Depot) to determine the rules.  I was able to find out that InComm (the company behind the reload cards) specifically supplies technology to merchants that supports credit card processing (see this page, for example).  So, it’s safe to say that InComm specifically allows credit card purchasing of some of their products, but it doesn’t tell us anything about the rules for this one product.

When I first purchased one of these cards using my Ink Bold, I was sure it was a fluke.  However, I then talked to an industry insider who promised me that these cards are different from others (Green Dot MoneyPaks, for example) and that the ability to use credit cards won’t go away.  Was he right?  We’ll see.  A number of commenters on my previous posts are betting against him.

Say no to taxes!

A couple of people have reported being charged sales tax for purchases of these reload cards (and for Vanilla Visa cards).  Don’t do it!  Sales tax should not be charged.  If you do pay sales tax, it will wipe out the benefit of using these cards.  Argue or walk away… just don’t pay.

Chase fear away

I do want to remind people about my post “Why Chase cancels accounts (and how to protect yourself).”  This will probably scare you.  Good.  Read the post and specifically read the “do” and “don’t” section for some help in how best to proceed.

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Last Saturday I teased readers with the post titled “Found! The perfect perpetual point machine.”  I followed up that post with “One card to rule them all” in which I showed how to use American Express prepaid cards to earn nearly 5 points per dollar everywhere. 

I detailed the idea behind Perpetual Point Machines in the post “The Perfect Perpetual Point Machine, Part 1.”  There, I defined a Perpetual Point Machine (PPM) as a scheme in which, after a little push, points and/or miles are accrued over and over again, forever, with little or no additional work.  I also laid out a few rules of what makes a perfect PPM:

    1. It may take effort and money to setup initially, but must not take much effort or money to keep it going.
    2. It must be able to generate hundreds of thousands of points per year.
    3. It must do no harm.
    4. Ideally (but optionally) it would also do some good for the world.

The idea of a scheme like this going forever is obviously ridiculous, but it would be great to find one that lasts a few years at least.  The Amex prepaid card meets the basic requirements of a PPM.  It takes a little work to order and register your card.  After that, it takes just a little effort to fill it up regularly.  The points are earned, indirectly, through regular everyday spend. 

How long will it last?

If you read the comments of my previous posts on this subject, you’ll see a healthy debate about this.  Some argue with conviction that this deal will be dead within hours.  Others argue that it can last quite a while.  The truth is, we simply don’t know.  Earning points through credit card sign-up bonuses is currently the best PPM that exists, and while it has changed drastically over the years, it still lives on.  In this case, the deal can be shut down instantly if Office Depot stops allowing credit card purchases of reload packs.  Or, it can be shut down later by Chase if they change the bonus rules for the Ink Bold.  Feel free to make your predictions in the comments below (but please keep the debate civil!).

Judging Perfection

Let’s see how this PPM stacks up against the rules I laid out for “perfection”:

Not much effort: For people who live or work near an Office Depot that carries reload cards, this condition is met.  Simply walk in once a week, or once a month, and buy a few cards.  No problem.

Hundreds of thousands of points: Since the Amex Prepaid card is limited to $2500 per month, this PPM is capable of generating 150,000 points per year (2500 X 5 X 12).  Does that count as “hundreds of thousands”?  Close enough in my book.

It must do no harm: Uh, well…  OK, that’s where this falls down a bit.  Chase loses money on 5X transactions.  Just like big credit card sign-up bonuses, they do this in order to attract and keep customers.  So, if we abuse this perk, then yes you can argue we are harming Chase.  American Express does very well with this scheme unless people abuse the ATM option.  However, anyone who does that will get shut down by Amex, so Amex is fine.  As to Office Depot, I truly don’t know.  I’ve been told by an industry expert that they do make money with the sale of these reload packs.  So, until I learn otherwise, I’ll assume Office Depot earns a profit from these sales.

Do good in the world:  That really depends on how you use your prepaid card.  If you use it to make charitable contributions (and add a little bit to cover the charity’s credit card transaction fee), or you use it to make Kiva loans, then we’re doing good!  OK, that’s a stretch.  This was an optional requirement anyway.

Overall, I’d say this is a really good, but not perfect PPM.  What do you think?


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