In my recent post “Better than free manufactured spend” I showed that it is possible to make a slight profit when buying Visa gift cards at GiftCardMall.com by first going through the cash back portal, TopCashBack.  I suggested, too, that you could earn even more money by first buying American Express gift cards to get cash back and then using those American Express gift cards to buy Visa gift cards.  Here’s how…

1. Go through a cash back portal to buy American Express gift cards.

TopCashBack and BigCrumbs currently offer the best cash back rates (1.5% and 1.4%, respectively).  Via either portal, search for “American Express Gift Cards” and click through to the Amex gift card store.  When going through a cash back portal, American Express has recently added a top limit of $500 per card that can be purchased, but you can get around this limit by buying a personalized card (for details, see “Amex takes away $3K cash back gift cards“).

2. Register your American Express cards

Once you receive your American Express card(s), call 1-877-297-4438 to register each card with your full name and address.  You will need to talk to a person to do so (press 0, I believe).

3. Go through TopCashBack to GiftCardMall to buy Visa gift cards

You can buy Visa gift cards with values of up to $1000.  You will be charged $3.95 for each card, plus shipping charges.  Since you can’t easily split the payment across multiple credit cards, I’d recommend picking a value less than $1000 to cover fees and shipping.

For example, let’s say you have a $1000 American Express gift card.  You can’t easily use it to buy a $1000 Visa card because the total charge will be $1003.95 plus shipping.  If you choose the cheapest shipping option, the total will come to $1006.94. You won’t be able to use your $1000 Amex gift card for that purchase.  To make things work, you can instead buy a $993 Visa gift card so that the total will come to $999.94.  Trackable shipping is $2 more, so you could order a $991 Visa gift card to stay on the safe side.

Shipping charges go down slightly as you add more cards to your order so it may be necessary to test different combinations to find the optimal Visa card value for your needs.

When you check-out to pay, make sure to use the exact same name and address that you registered to your American Express gift card in step 2.

Also, do not try to place this order from a foreign country or when browsing via a VPN service.  I recently had my order stopped when going through a VPN.  I called GiftCardMall and found out (after they investigated) that the order was blocked due to a foreign IP address (even though I had chosen a Washington DC gateway).

Alternate Plan

Instead of buying sub $1000 Visa gift cards, another option is to buy GiftCardMall Choice Cards to cover fees and shipping.  For example, buy a $10 Choice card and then use it along with a $1000 Amex card to pay for a $1000 Visa card.  This approach takes planning, though.  I tested it successfully, but it took two days for my Choice e-gift card to arrive.

Cash Back Portal Tips

Things can go wrong when going through online shopping portals. The main risk is that your click-through may not be tracked properly.  To increase your chances of success, please see “How to ensure your portal points“.  Also note that if you place more than one order (e.g. you check out and pay more than once), then you should go through the portal each time first. 

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I’ve reported before that it is possible to get 1.5% cash back via TopCashBack or 1.4% cash back via BigCrumbs when buying Amex gift cards online.  Here are some miscellaneous updates on that topic…

Financial review fears

Some people who have ordered large amounts of gift cards from American Express, using American Express credit cards to pay, have suffered through American Express financial reviews.  This means that American Express freezes all of you Amex card accounts and requests documentation (such as tax forms) to prove to them that you are able to sustain such high levels of spend (and to pay it back).  Regardless of whether the financial review satisfies American Express, its probably an event that you would prefer to avoid.  So, just note that as a caution before you buy too many gift cards!

FatWallet vs. TopCashBack

Currently, the difference in payout between FatWallet and TopCashBack is very small (1.4% vs. 1.5%).  In general, people have had very positive experiences with FatWallet (see, for example, “FatWallet sets a high bar for cash back portals“).  However, experiences with TopCashBack have been mixed.  While I haven’t had much trouble, some readers have reported so much trouble that they’ve vowed never to use the site again.  Again, just consider that a caution.  As long as the difference in payout is so small, you may be better off going with FatWallet.

Discount codes

There are usually discount codes available to either reduce shipping charges or eliminate fees from Amex gift card purchases.  However, readers have reported problems with codes I’ve reported in the past.  One reader reports success with the code “PHONEGIFT3” but when I tried it I received an error.  Another reader reported success with the code “EMSVCA” but that too gave me an error.  It seems that if I start my session in BigCrumbs or TopCashBack, the codes don’t work.  If I go directly to Amex, the codes do work, but then I won’t get 1.4%/1.5% cash back. 

The one code I’ve found that does seem to work after going through a cash back portal is AFLQ12013.  I’ve tried this successfully from both BigCrumbs and TopCashBack. This code subtracts $5.95 from your shipping charges. 

Have you used any codes successfully lately with a cash back portal?  If so, please report the codes in the comments below.

TopCashBack confirmed

A number of readers have reported frustration with TopCashBack for various reasons and have questioned whether they will pay out reliably for Amex gift cards.  This is just one small data point, but its worth noting that my transactions from January 11 have moved from pending to confirmed:

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While this is reassuring, its also a good reminder that getting cash back can take a long time (from any portal).

Free Money

It looks like you can get cash back for ordering free American Express prepaid gift cards.  BigCrumbs offers $7 back and TopCashBack offers $10.  I experimented by going through TopCashBack to American Express Gift Cards and I searched for Prepaid Cards.  I then ordered one for my wife.  You can get one with no money loaded on it and there is no charge.  I later received confirmation from TopCashBack that $10 was pending (and the status is now “confirmed”):

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Each person (based on SSN) can order up to 3 free prepaid cards, so this can be up to $30 free money per person.  I wonder if one were to cancel the cards if they could order more…?

To find the prepaid cards, go to the gift cards section, scroll to the bottom and look for a tiny hyperlink titled “prepaid cards”:

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Reader Tip: Adding your name to the card

This tip comes from a reader who noted that Amex allows you to add a message to each gift card and that the message appears at the bottom of the card in the same place that a name would usually appear on a credit card.  Soooo, if you plan to use these gift cards for yourself, simply put your own name in as the message.  That way, if a store asks to see your ID, they can compare the name on your ID to the one on your “credit card”.

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To get to the customizable gift cards, scroll to the bottom of the gift card screen and look for the tiny “gift cards” hyperlink:

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Then, select “Custom Message Gift Cards”.  Warning: I have not tested whether this will result in cash back if you came from a cash back portal.  I expect it will, but I don’t yet have proof.

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Recently I detailed how to “pay federal taxes via credit card for free.”  The process works, but is fairly complicated: first buy Amex gift cards and get cash back, then use those Amex gift cards to buy $1000 Visa gift cards, then use those Visa gift cards as debit cards to pay taxes at a very low rate.  If you need to use more than two debit cards, then you need to call in to use those cards since the web sites will accept only two. 

By doing all of the above, the cash back you receive offsets the costs of buying gift cards and paying taxes.  But it can be a pain in the you know what.  Luckily, thanks to new developments, there’s now an easier option…

Reduced Amex fees

Last week, a reader named Robert alerted me to the fact that PayUSAtax now charges only 1.89% for American Express credit cards.  Previously, 2.29% was the best available rate for Amex cards.  This is big news because we can now simplify the process and still pay almost nothing for taxes (I’ll detail the steps below).

A full list of service providers that accept credit cards for paying federal taxes can be found here: Pay Taxes by Credit or Debit Card.

TopCashBack joins the game

Another new development worth sharing is that TopCashBack now offers cash back for American Express Gift Cards.  They currently offer 1.5% cash back, which slightly beats Big Crumbs which currently offers 1.4% cash back.  Full details can be found here: More cash back for Amex gift cards.

Pay Taxes inexpensively

Thanks to the two new developments listed above, it is now possible to pay taxes for considerably less than 1% in fees.  Here’s how.

1. Go through BigCrumbs or TopCashBack for cash back

Log into either BigCrumbs or TopCashBack.  Search for American Express Prepaid and Gift Cards.  Click through to the American Express Gift Cards store.

2. Buy gift cards

There are two versions of the American Express gift card shop.  One is intended for personal use and one for business.  Only the personal one is available through TopCashBack, but both are available through BigCrumbs. (Edit: both personal and business cards are available through both portals). The personal site limits orders to $5000 per month whereas the business site limits orders to $75000 per month. 

In order to minimize fees, I recommend buying fewer, larger gift cards.  The limit, per card, is $3000.  For example, if you want to pay about $5000 in taxes, then buy two $2500 cards.  If you need to pay less than $3000, then buy just one card.

Reduce shipping charges by $5.95 by using the promo code AFLQ12013.

Pay with the best rewards credit card available, but do not pay with a Citibank card as Citi treats these purchases as cash advances.  If you’re unsure about whether your credit card company will treat these as regular purchases, call to set your cash advance limit to zero before purchasing gift cards.

3. Use gift cards to pay taxes

Go to PayUSAtax to pay your federal taxes using your American Express gift card as a credit card.  PayUSAtax will charge you 1.89%, so make sure to have that much available on your gift card.  For example, if you have a $3000 gift card, then you can pay as much as $3000 / 1.0189 = $2944.35.  [Note, I haven't had a chance to test this part out fully yet.  Some merchants put a small hold on a credit card first to verify the card before accepting payment.  If this happens here, you may need to make a slightly smaller payment].

4. Calculate cost

If you go through TopCashBack and buy a $3000 gift card using the shipping promo code, you will pay a total of $3006.95.  Then, you should get $45 back from TopCashBack (it may take a few months to become payable), for a total cost of $2961.95.  With your gift card, you will be able to make a tax payment for $2944.35.  The rest of the gift card will be used to pay the processing fee.

  • Total cost: $2961.95
  • Taxes paid: $2944.35
  • Cost to pay taxes = $2961.95 – $2944.35 = $17.60
  • Cost as a percent of taxes paid = $17.60 / $2944.35 = .6% (i.e. considerably less than 1%)

.6% is not free, but the points or miles earned when buying the gift cards are most likely worth considerably more.  Even with a basic 1% cash back card, you would make a profit! 

If you go through BigCrumbs rather than TopCashBack, the savings are similar.  The total cost to pay $2944.35 in taxes comes to $20.60, which is only .7%.

[Hat tip to Eddie and bluto for correcting my math!]

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Avid points & Miles collectors are always on the lookout for opportunities to increase credit card spend without fees.  Taxes, mortgage payments, rent payments, car payments, etc. are great examples of large expenses that many would like to pay with credit cards, but high fees for paying by credit card are often a barrier.

For Federal Taxes, the IRS maintains a web page that links to service providers who make it possible to pay taxes via credit or debit card.  See “Pay Taxes by Credit or Debit Card.”  This is great if you have a mile-earning debit card since debit fees are very low.  However, most of us have credit cards (or charge cards which work the same as credit cards), and the credit card fees are quite steep.  Here is the fee chart:

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The lowest fee for paying with a MasterCard or Visa is 1.89%, and the lowest fee for paying with an American Express card is 2.29%.  Debit cards, though, have only a single fixed fee per payment of $3.49 to $3.95.  The larger the payment you make, the lower this fee is as a percentage. With a $1000 payment, for example, the fee is less than half of one percent.

Pay Taxes for Very Low Fees

One easy way to lower your fees is to buy American Express gift cards for cash back and then use those cards to pay your taxes.  Currently, for example, BigCrumbs is offering 2.25% (or, temporarily, 2.5%) cash back if you go through their portal to American Express Gift Cards and buy the cards there.  For details, please see my post “Big News at BigCrumbs.”  Note that depending on which cards you choose, which shipment method you go with, and which discount codes you input, you will have fees that lower your effective rebate.

If you then use those American Express gift cards to pay taxes via ValueTaxPayment.com you will be charged 2.29% in fees.  The exact cost of paying taxes will then depend on your effective rebate from BigCrumbs, but overall it should be very low.

Pay Taxes for No Fee (or make a profit!)

If you add another step to this process, you can reduce your fees even more.  You might even make a nice profit!  Here’s the trick:

  • Buy Visa gift cards: After buying Amex gift cards as described above, go to GiftCardMall.com and buy one or more $1000 Visa gift cards.  Pay with your Amex gift card.  I did this recently with a $1000 Amex gift card.  I chose to buy a Visa gift card for $992 so that the fees and shipping costs would come as close to $1000 as possible ($999.94) in order to clear out my Amex gift card.
  • Pay Taxes via Debit card: Use the resulting Visa gift cards to pay Federal Taxes.  These cards can be used as debit cards so that your fee will be less than $4 per payment.  For step by step instructions for paying with a Visa gift card online, see “How to pay Federal taxes with a Vanilla Visa.”  Even though that post describes how to pay with $500 Visa cards, the basic steps are the same.  Make sure to scale up the payment amounts though!  See the next step:
  • Clear out your gift card: Pay exactly the amount that will clear out your Visa gift card.  For example, if you have a $992 Visa gift card and the fee for paying by debit card is $3.49, then pay $992 – $3.49 = $988.51.  This way, the one payment will leave a zero balance on your Visa card and you can then toss it in the trash (once you receive confirmation of the payment).
  • Take it bigger: The online services only allow two payments at a time, but I found that by calling Official Payments Corporation (1-888-872-9829), the phone agents will happily accept as many debit payments as you care to make.  So, if you need to make more than $2000 in payments, try that method.

By going through the method described above, your fee for paying taxes is reduced considerably.  Let’s add up the fees:

  • GiftCardMall: Approximately $8 per card
  • Tax payment: $3.95 (or less) per payment
  • Total: $11.49 per payment.  If we assume a payment of $988.51 (as described above), this amount to a fee of  = 1.16% fee

Remember that you would have bought these gift cards with Amex gift cards in which you gained over 2%.  In total, you can not only pay taxes for free, but earn a profit!

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The American Express for Target card that I wrote about yesterday is hardly revolutionary.  Compared to the generic American Express Prepaid cards, the Target Amex has higher ATM fees and much stricter limits (for example, the card may only be used within the U.S.).  Compared to the new Bluebird card, the Target Amex doesn’t compare at all.  It doesn’t have bill pay, you can’t move money out to your bank account, and there are no plans to allow check writing.  However, the Target Amex has one awesome feature that the others don’t have: you can load this card in-store with a credit card.

To get your own American Express for Target card, please see my post “How to get the American Express for Target card.”

Fees and Limits

The Target Amex card has the following fees and limits:

  • $3 per reload in-store
  • $3 per ATM withdrawal after the first free withdrawal each month.  Note that ATM owner fees apply as well.
  • Number of cards: Each person is allowed up to two cards.  Only one may be purchased in a day.
  • Maximum balance: $2500 per card
  • ATM withdrawals: Limited to $400 per day

Running up spend

There are many reasons you may want to run up spend on a credit card.  Here are a few examples:

  • Meet credit card minimum spend requirements.  Many credit card sign up offers require high spend to receive the full value of the offer.  For example, the Ink Bold and Ink Plus currently require $10K of spend in 3 months in order to get the full 50K bonus.
  • Achieve high-spend bonuses.  Some cards offer bonus points when you reach certain thresholds of spend.  Other cards offer airline or hotel elite status.  Personally, I use “manufactured spend” tricks with the Delta Reserve and Delta Platinum cards in order to achieve high level elite status on Delta each year (see “Mileage running, from home“).
  • Maximize promotions.  Some cards target cardholders with temporary incentives (such as extra points) to use their cards more.

Whatever your reason for wanting to run up spend, the Target Amex can be a nice addition to your tool chest.  It’s not free (like Amazon Payments), and it’s not a game changer (like Vanilla reload cards), but it’s pretty good.  Here are two approaches to using the card to run up spend…

Straight-Up Approach

The simplest way to use the Target Amex to run up spend is as follows:

  1. Use your credit card to pay for each reload.  Load the maximum allowed $1000 each time in order to make the $3 load fee as small of a percentage as possible.
  2. Find the lowest cost ATMs around and unload the card $400 at a time.  Some people have been lucky enough to find free ATMs at their local credit unions.  Some have reported finding 99 cent ATMs inside MacDonald’s.  Others have settled on the still inexpensive ATM’s in Costco ($1.25 per withdrawal).

If you load and withdraw $2000 per month, and use Costco ATMs at $1.25 per use, your total costs will come to $24.25, or 1.21%.  If you don’t count the value of your time into the equation, this can be a very reasonable price to pay to get points!

Indirect Approach

There are many variations of the indirect approach.  The basic idea is to get extra points or cash back when buying bank gift cards and then use those bank gift cards to load your Target Amex.  For this post, I’ll focus on a simple cash-back strategy for buying Amex gift cards at a discount:

Buying Amex gift cards at a discount

I’ve had this post planned for weeks, but coincidentally, Frugal Travel Guy reminded the world about this trick yesterday (see “A look back and ahead at Bigcrumbs.com“).  The idea is to go through the online portal BigCrumbs to buy American Express gift cards and receive 1.4% cash back.  Here’s how:

  1. Sign up for BigCrumbs.  (If you would like to contribute to Frequent Miler, please consider using this referral link — I’ll earn a small bonus each time you get cash back).
  2. Search BigCrumbs for “American Express”.  You’ll find two options: American Express Gift Cards – Business, and American Express Gift Cards – Personal.  Click through either one.
  3. Order gift cards for yourself.  Except when special promotions are going on, each card has a $3.95 fee, so your best value is to buy one $3000 card at a time.  You will also be charged $8.95 for 2nd Day shipping. 
  4. Pay with your credit card.  Note: do not do this with Citibank cards since it has been reported that Citi treats these purchases as cash advances!  In my experience, both Chase and American Express treat these as regular purchases.  If you’re unsure about your bank, consider buying a small denomination card first to test the waters.

In total, your fees will come to $12.90 or .43%.  From BigCrumbs, you should get back 1.4% of $3000, which is $42.  After subtracting out the fees, you still gain $29.10 which is a .97% profit!

Liquidating Amex gift cards

Now that you have Amex gift cards that you effectively got at a discount, you can liquidate them by using them to load Target Amex cards and then withdraw the money from ATMs.  By going through this indirect approach, your total fees for running up spend will come down to a miniscule .24%!

Scale up

With the options shown above, you can easily “manufacture” $2000 spend per month.  Yes, you could go to $2500, but then you wouldn’t be perfectly optimizing the fees since you would have to do a $500 load each month.

One easy way to scale up beyond $2000, is to get a second card.  That way, you can go up to $4000 spend per month.  Further, if you have a partner you can work with, they could get two cards as well.  A couple could manufacture $8000 in spend per month!

Warnings

I’ve cautioned heavily before against doing exactly what I wrote about above.  With either the regular Amex Prepaid cards or the Bluebird card, I think it would be a mistake to abuse them by using them just for loading and unloading.  Amex counts on you using these cards for real credit card transactions.  If you don’t, they have the ability to close your accounts.  Just as concerning, loading and unloading cards looks like money laundering.  So, you do run some risk of being investigated (even though there’s nothing illegal about the procedure I wrote about).

Everyone needs to use their own judgment about the level of risk they’re willing to incur.  In the case of Target Amex cards, my guess is that the fees are just high enough to put us in the clear.  What I mean is that Amex and Target probably don’t lose money (at least, not much) when we load and unload cards as described in this post.  If true, then they would have little or no incentive to spend resources on monitoring how we use these cards.  I can’t stress enough, though, that this is just my educated guess.  Use your own judgment about how (or whether) to proceed.

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While planning upcoming trips, a couple of Marriott properties have caught my eye.  They both received great reviews and are in perfect locations for where I want to be.  The downside is that neither has award availability for the time I want to go.  So, what are my options?  Can I double or triple dip my way to savings?  Can I get points for buying Marriott gift cards, and for using the gift cards to take some of the sting out of paying for a hotel?

In the past, Marriott has run promotions where they sold their gift cards at a discount or for extra points.  For example, a reader who goes by Jeremy E reported to me that he received 10 Marriott points per dollar when purchasing gift cards several months ago.  To my knowledge, there’s nothing like that available right now.  However, there are some good options for earning extra points through a triple dip:

Dip 1: Buy Gift Cards up to 9X

  • By using a Chase Ink card that earns 5 points per dollar for office supplies, its possible to earn 9 points per dollar by going through Chase’s Ultimate Rewards Mall to Staples to buy Marriott gift cards.  5 points per dollar come from the Ink bonus category and 4 points per dollar come from the Ultimate Rewards Mall. 
  • With the Sapphire Preferred, you can earn 5 points per dollar by going through the Ultimate Rewards Mall to Marriott.com to buy gift cards.  Two points per dollar come from the card’s 2X travel bonus, and 3 points per dollar come from the Ultimate Rewards Mall.  One reader, Jeremy E, who did this reported that the 2X for travel posted automatically, but he had to call Chase to request the 3X for the Ultimate Rewards Mall. 
  • With any credit card, you can earn 3.5% cash back by finding the Marriott Gift Card store on Big Crumbs.  If you use the Marriott Premier Visa Card to make this purchase, you should receive 5 Marriott points per dollar as well.  Lets call this combination 8.5X (5X + 3.5% cash back).

Dip 2: Reserve stay via points / cash back portal up to 3.5X

  • If you have access to the Ultimate Rewards Mall, go through the mall to Marriott to make the room reservations to get 3 points per dollar.
  • A good alternative to the Ultimate Rewards Mall is to go through Big Crumbs to Marriott for 3.5% back.

Dip 3: Earn Marriott Rewards for your stay up to 15X

  • Most Marriott properties automatically give 10 points per dollar.
  • Platinum members are awarded up to 15 points per dollar.
  • Prior to travelling, it is possible to request a Platinum Elite Challenge in order to get all of the perks of top tier status for your stay, including 15 points per dollar!

Add it up

With the triple dip listed above, it’s possible to get the equivalent of 27.5 points per dollar where “points” are a mix of Ultimate Rewards, Marriott Rewards, and cash.  If/when Marriott brings back the 10 points per dollar for gift cards promotion, you could do even better.  Use your Marriott Premier Visa Card to buy the gift cards for 5X + 10X = 15X.  By going through a portal for both purchasing gift cards and reserving rooms you get another 6X to 7X.  Then you get your 15X for the stay as a Platinum Elite.  That combination would give you a total of 36 to 37X!

20% off through Discover America?

Last April, ThePointsGuy reported a one day sale on Marriott gift certificates for 20% off.  This was part of the American Express Discover America promotion which is coming back this April!  I plan to watch this closely.  If the Marriott promotion comes back, I’ll definitely try to nab some gift cards!

Notes

The triple dip approach described above is stackable with almost all Marriott special offers such as their Megabonus offers.  One exception is that you cannot use gift cards for advance payment reservations.


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Big Crumbs announces my failures, and I like it that way.   

As you probably know, I do a lot of experiments with shopping portals.  For example, I’ll buy merchant gift cards for points or cash back from one portal, and then spend the gift card with the hope of more points or cash back from the same or another portal.  To see some of the experiments that are in progress or completed, please see the Frequent Miler Laboratory

With these experiments it is easy to determine when they succeed.  Points or cash back appear in my portal account, usually as “pending”.  In those cases, I can announce success and move on.  Note: I’ve heard stories of points posting and then being pulled back, but I have yet to experience that.

When an experiment fails, though, most portals give no feedback at all.  In those cases, my only option is to wait some number of weeks before giving up and calling it a failure.

Big Crumbs is different.  With my last several failed experiments, the cash back posted in green and was subtracted out in red.  See the image below for examples from drugstore.com, Magazines.com, and Barnes & Noble:

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So, even though I’m not happy that the experiments failed.  I love the feedback!

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A reader contacted me yesterday asking about the best way to meet minimum spend on her American Express business card.  She has $1000 left to spend and wants to buy Walmart gift cards.  Of course she could simply go to Walmart to buy them, but she’d like to save money and/or earn points too.  So, what is the best option?  Here’s the best approach I can think of:

Step 1: Look for discounted Walmart cards

Go to GiftCardGranny.com and search for Walmart.  You may want to uncheck the box on the left that shows Ebay Auctions since these are not final prices.  As of the time of this writing, there are many cards available for anywhere from 2% to 5% off their face value.

Step 2: See if any of the discount cards qualify for additional cash back

Before buying the cards found in step 1, check to see if you can earn cash back by going through a cash back shopping portal:

  • Through ShopAtHome, the following offers are available:
    • CardPool.com offers .8% cash back
    • GiftCertificates.com offers 3% cash back
    • GiftCards.com offers 3.5% cash back
  • Through FatWallet, you can get 1% cash back for purchases made at PlasticJungle
  • Through eBay, you always get 2% back in the form of eBay bucks.

Step 3 (optional): Buy bank gift cards in order to buy the Walmart cards

Through the American Express OPEN Savings program, purchases of more than $100 at OfficeMax result in a 5% rebate!  So, you can go to OfficeMax and buy $200 Visa gift cards.  Once you account for the $6.95 fee per card, you end up with a savings of 1.7%.  You can now use these Visa gift cards to buy the discounted Walmart cards you found in steps 1 and 2.

NOTE: Only do this step if the gift cards you intend to buy are each $200 or less!  If they cost more, it probably won’t be possible to use the Visa cards to purchase the Walmart cards.  Another option is to go through Big Crumbs in order to buy an American Express gift card in a larger denomination.  Through Big Crumbs you will get 1.4% back, but you will have to pay Amex a service fee and shipping.  Truthfully, unless you buy a very large denomination card from Amex (in order to minimize the % loss due to shipping and fees), this option is probably not worth the effort.

Add it up

Through the 3 steps above, it may be possible to save as much as 5% in step 1, 3.5% in step 2, and 1.7% in step 3 for a total savings of 10.2%! This would amount to about $100 in savings!

Other options

In this post I detailed how to go about getting Walmart gift cards with as big of a discount as possible.  There are, however, many other ways to meet the minimum spend on your credit cards.  For some examples, please see “Top ten ways to spend a lot of money and get most of it back.”

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A common method people have used to meet minimum credit card spend to qualify for signup bonuses is to buy American Express gift cards via Big Crumbs in order to put big charges on their cards and get 1.6% cash back in the process.  Unfortunately, the cash back rate has now dropped to 1.4%.

Fortunately, there are a few other good options if you are working on meeting minimum spend for the Chase Ink Bold or any American Express business card with OPEN Savings:

Ink Bold

Option 1: Buy Visa gift cards at Staples via Ultimate Rewards Mall

As I reported yesterday in the post “Inking Money” you can buy $100 Visa gift cards (with a $5.95 service fee) at Staples via the Ultimate Rewards Mall in order to get a total of 9 points per dollar.  The extra points earned when doing this (above the 1 point normally earned for credit card spend) are worth $11.18 according to the Fair Trading Price of Ultimate Rewards points.  After subtracting out the $5.95 service fee, you gain $5.23 (in the form of points).  In other words, this is like a 5.23% rebate!

Option 2: Buy Visa gift cards in person

Another option with the Ink Bold is to buy $200 Visa gift cards with a $6.95 service fee at any office superstore such as Staples, OfficeMax, or Office Depot.  Since the Ink Bold gives 5 points per dollar for office supplies, this approach returns 1035 points, or 935 more than would be earned for non-bonus purchases.  The Fair Trading Price of those 935 points is $12.24.  After subtracting out the $6.95 service fee, you gain $5.29 (in points).  This amounts to a 2.6% rebate.

American Express with OPEN Savings

As I reported in the post “Turn your Amex into Visa and Save $,” American Express OPEN savings give 5% back for purchases of $100 or more at OfficeMax.  So, it is possible to buy $200 Visa cards at OfficeMax with a $6.95 fee and you will get $10.35 back.  In other words, this is like a 1.7% rebate.

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CAUTION: While this post offers a way to buy points and miles at bargain rates, there are serious risks involved in this approach. Before trying this, please review the “Risks” section at the bottom of this post.

Overview

A few days ago I posted step by step instructions for how to meet credit card spend thresholds without breaking a sweat. I showed how to achieve $5000 of credit card spend by buying and liquidating (cashing-in) American Express gift cards for a total cost of $68.40. That post focused on how to qualify for sign-up bonuses. This post, on the other hand, will show how to use the same trick to buy miles cheaply. When you buy and liquidate $5000 worth of gift cards, you will earn 5000 points or miles simply by using a travel rewards credit card. Why is this significant? Well, it means that, with this method, it will cost you $68.40 to get 5000 points or miles. That works out to 1.37 cents per mile. Considering that many reward program points are worth at least 1.5 cents each, that’s a pretty good deal! But you can do even better. Keep reading, and I’ll show you how to buy points and miles for .82 cents each!

The secret

The secret behind this hack is to find credit cards that offer big bonuses when you meet certain spend thresholds. By buying and liquidating gift cards, you can meet those spend thresholds and earn even more miles and points. For example, there are several credit cards that offer 10,000 bonus miles once you reach $25,000 of spending in a year, and some that offer even better bonuses. For a nearly complete list of such cards, see NerdWallet’s blog post “Which credit cards give bonuses to big spenders“.

Planning

This is not a quick and easy hack. It requires long term planning and follow-through to make it work. Credit card spend thresholds usually need to be met within a calendar year, so your best bet is to begin preparing prior to a new calendar year. You may need to sign up for new credit cards if you don’t already have one with a big bonus for high spend. You will also need to sign up for the Big Crumbs shopping portal and an account with Square. See my prior post for details.

Process

Begin early in the year, preferably January, and buy gift cards once a month. Your goal should be to spread out the purchases as much as possible over the year, and with each purchase buy as few gift cards as possible (so as to reduce the amount of fees paid to Amex). For example, if your goal is to spend $25,000 on a card, a good approach is to buy one $2000 gift card per month for 11 months and then one $3000 card the final month. If your goal is to spend $100,000 on a card, then buy $9000 worth of cards each month for 11 months and a $1000 card the final month. Some additional considerations:

  • Make sure you have a high enough credit limit. The value of this hack could be wiped out by over-the-limit fees if you’re not careful!
  • In order to keep a good credit rating, try not to approach your credit limit. See DansDeals for more about this. However, I’d recommend against paying off your credit card multiple times a month since there are some indications that this might prompt a financial review from your credit card company.
  • You must pay off your credit card bill in full each month. Otherwise you will be plagued with high interest charges that will quickly turn this deal into a disaster.
  • Do not try this with a Citibank card since Citibank treats gift card purchases as cash advances. There are, apparently, ways to get around this by calling Citibank each time, but personally I wouldn’t take the risk.
  • Think twice before attempting this with an American Express card. There have been many reports of people being put through an arduous financial review process by American Express in which their accounts are frozen for a few weeks and they are required to submit multiple years of tax records to Amex. Personally I’m half-hoping that this will happen to me so that I can blog about the experience, but you might not see similar value in it!

Examples

The following examples show the value obtained from this approach with various credit cards. To keep things simple, the examples assume that gift card purchases are made $5000 at a time. Since $3000 is the largest gift card amount you can buy, these examples assume that you will buy two cards each time ($3K + $2K = $5K). In the example from my prior post, I showed that the cost of buying and liquidating $5K in cards is $68.40. If you buy fewer cards, your fees will be slightly lower. If you buy more cards, your fees will be slightly higher. Also, some credit cards have multiple spend thresholds. In those cases, I always assume you will reach the largest one.

Credit Card Spend Threshold Bonus points/miles Cost per mile Annual Fee Cost per mile with Annual fee
Continental OnePass Plus $25K 10K .977 cents $95 1.25 cents
UnitedMileage Plus $25K 10K .977 cents $95 1.25 cents
Amex Premier Rewards $30K 15K .912 cents $175 1.3 cents
Platinum Delta Skymiles $50K 20K .977 cents $150 1.19 cents
Delta Reserve $60K 30K .912 cents $450 1.41 cents
Chase Ink Bold $100K 47.5K .927 cents $95 .99 cents
Chase Ink Bold with checking * $100K 67.5K .817 cents $95 .87 cents

* As reported by reader JTI, in this Deals We Like post, if you have a Chase checking account, you can earn an extra 20% from all points earned via purchases. So, $100K of spend results in an extra 20,000 points above and beyond the threshold bonuses! For more information, see this offer from Chase.

Analysis

If you already own any of the cards shown above (or others with similar bonuses), there is no question that this is a great deal. If you are close to a threshold, but won’t quite make it, then this deal gets even better because your costs will be much smaller than shown above. Whether it is worth getting a card just to do this deal, is another matter. Each card comes with some excellent perks, but if you don’t value those perks, the cost per mile of this trick goes up substantially for most of the cards. The Chase Ink Bold, though, is in a class of its own. Even with the annual fee factored in, the cost to buy points is less than a penny each. This is all the more remarkable because you can exchange your points for cash at a value of 1 cent each and actually end up ahead cash-wise (I wouldn’t recommend it, though – it would be a heck of a lot of work for very small profit!). The best use of Chase points is to transfer to airline or hotel partners (when you need them) or to book travel through Chase Ultimate Rewards which makes your points 25% more valuable! I can’t really say enough about how great the Chase points program is. Instead, check out this post from ThePointsGuy. Also note that, unlike the other cards, the bonus points given by the Chase Ink Bold card are not based on calendar year. Instead, they use the anniversary of your enrollment date to determine when a year has elapsed.

There are many ways you can save money and effectively buy points and miles for even less than shown above. For example, you could sign up for American Express’ Premium Shipping Plan which, for $99 per year, will give you unlimited free shipping of gift cards. Even better, you may be able to find cheaper ways of liquidating the American Express gift cards, such as by using (some of) them for daily spend. Let us know in the comments below if you have ideas for saving money or earning more points!

Risks

This mile/point hack is not without risks. I’ll spell out here the ones I can think of:

Credit Card Financial Review

Credit card companies use sophisticated rules engines to determine when there is potentially fraudulent activity on an account. If you do this trick a lot, it is very likely to cause your account to be flagged and reviewed. Many people who have done similar tricks with American Express cards have complained about having their accounts frozen for weeks while the review took place. If this happens to you, be polite and honest about what you’re doing and hopefully you’ll get through it unscathed.

IRS Audit

Starting in 2012, Square will report your transactions to the IRS if you exceed both $20,000 in payments and 200 payments. While there is nothing illegal about this hack, I’m sure you don’t want the headache of explaining these transactions in the case of an audit. Therefore, I’d recommend being very careful to keep the number of credit transactions you accept via Square to fewer than 200.

Cash Advance

This hack works because gift cards are counted as regular purchases by most credit card companies. However, Citibank is known to treat gift card purchases as cash advances instead. If this happens you will not earn points on these purchase, but you will likely incur unpleasant interest charges and fees. Before going full steam ahead with this hack, I’d recommend that you try out a single small gift card purchase to make sure it goes through as a regular purchase.

Conclusion

The technique described in this post offers the possibility of racking up huge amounts of points and miles for very little money. However, the process is complicated and risky. Is it worth it to you? In follow up posts I’ll show how you can leverage this hack to earn additional benefits beyond cheap points such as free flights, airport lounge access, and airline and hotel elite status. Stay tuned.


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