Comments on: Flight 188: A ‘Mystery’ That Sounds More Like a Cover-Up http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/ Fri, 08 Oct 2010 23:15:21 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: joesharkey http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8659 joesharkey Tue, 27 Oct 2009 15:11:23 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8659 Jeremy, If your earlier post was not approved or was deleted, it was by accident. Thanks for following up. Joe Sharkey Jeremy,
If your earlier post was not approved or was deleted, it was by accident. Thanks for following up. Joe Sharkey

]]> By: Jeremy http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8655 Jeremy Mon, 26 Oct 2009 22:49:59 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8655 Geo-Pilot, They stopped responding to ATC well before reaching MSP. That's why it was 78 minutes of NORDO, but only 18 minutes past MSP. The first 60 minutes was along the normal route prior to reaching MSP. I posted this a while ago but my detailed post was deleted. Hopefully this shorter version is acceptable. Geo-Pilot,

They stopped responding to ATC well before reaching MSP. That’s why it was 78 minutes of NORDO, but only 18 minutes past MSP. The first 60 minutes was along the normal route prior to reaching MSP.

I posted this a while ago but my detailed post was deleted. Hopefully this shorter version is acceptable.

]]> By: Geo-Pilot http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8647 Geo-Pilot Mon, 26 Oct 2009 06:43:38 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8647 Has anyone done the math here??!! An A320 flying at Mach.8 travels around 500+mph. That means it will cover 150 miles in roughly 18 minutes, not 1 hour plus! There's something really amiss in these reports. As a pilot, I know it is quite possible to miss a check-in on Center frequency when even slightly distracted, so 10-20 minutes NORDO is not too far fetched. I have also had "open mikes" on the same frequency from wayward pilots block transmission from Center where I didn't hear them for several minutes. The NORDO issue is not such a big deal. The main problem is that both eyes in the cockpit missed the approach and passage of the target! There is no excuse for that except gross negligence on the crew's part -- inattention or falling asleep seems to be the most likely explanation here. Has anyone done the math here??!! An A320 flying at Mach.8 travels around 500+mph. That means it will cover 150 miles in roughly 18 minutes, not 1 hour plus! There’s something really amiss in these reports. As a pilot, I know it is quite possible to miss a check-in on Center frequency when even slightly distracted, so 10-20 minutes NORDO is not too far fetched. I have also had “open mikes” on the same frequency from wayward pilots block transmission from Center where I didn’t hear them for several minutes. The NORDO issue is not such a big deal. The main problem is that both eyes in the cockpit missed the approach and passage of the target! There is no excuse for that except gross negligence on the crew’s part — inattention or falling asleep seems to be the most likely explanation here.

]]> By: boifromtroy http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8643 boifromtroy Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:54:30 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8643 If Northwest had Channel 9, I'd bet we might know more... If Northwest had Channel 9, I’d bet we might know more…

]]> By: FireFighterMike http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8642 FireFighterMike Sun, 25 Oct 2009 22:11:02 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8642 They were definetly sleeping,Common sense and the different stories being told states that..were they overworked,,prob. but prob could have refused to fly to,,buts its the money!! They were definetly sleeping,Common sense and the different stories being told states that..were they overworked,,prob. but prob could have refused to fly to,,buts its the money!!

]]> By: brian from nodebtworldtravel.com http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8641 brian from nodebtworldtravel.com Sun, 25 Oct 2009 20:54:22 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8641 I have never said I am looking forward to seeing an hearing involving pilots, but I am dying to know what these guys are going to say come Tuesday. I have never said I am looking forward to seeing an hearing involving pilots, but I am dying to know what these guys are going to say come Tuesday.

]]> By: theflyingpinto http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/2009/10/24/flight-188-a-mystery-that-sounds-more-like-a-cover-up/comment-page-1/#comment-8638 theflyingpinto Sun, 25 Oct 2009 01:37:48 +0000 http://boardingarea.com/blogs/joesharkey/?p=1820#comment-8638 I say they were sleeping. I say they were sleeping.

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