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	<title>Comments on: My Delta Bonus Plan&#8230;. make sense?</title>
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	<description>Tips, Tricks, and Travel with Lucky</description>
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		<title>By: Frugal Travel Guy</title>
		<link>http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2008/11/20/my-delta-bonus-plan-make-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-13417</link>
		<dc:creator>Frugal Travel Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 24 Nov 2008 15:17:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben: I like the plan and your proposed use of the miles. Good luck

Rick</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben: I like the plan and your proposed use of the miles. Good luck</p>
<p>Rick</p>
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		<title>By: mommafrica</title>
		<link>http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2008/11/20/my-delta-bonus-plan-make-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-13053</link>
		<dc:creator>mommafrica</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:21:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Even worse is that DL claims to have terminated this promo. Customer svc reps claim to have no knowledge of this promo. Many people have transfered SPG pts &amp; are now trying to retrieve them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Even worse is that DL claims to have terminated this promo. Customer svc reps claim to have no knowledge of this promo. Many people have transfered SPG pts &amp; are now trying to retrieve them.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2008/11/20/my-delta-bonus-plan-make-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-13022</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 22:24:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Transfer miles work BUT not Membership Rewards transfers.

One thing to note though is the ability to XFR Starwood points... You can transfer Membership Rewards to Starpoints then Starpoints at a 1 : 1 into Delta Miles....

PLUS with a 20K Starpoints XFR you get a 5K bonus. So you could XFR 80K Membership Rewards to Startpoints then to Delta earning 100K Delta Miles.

Then transfer those over to your account.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Transfer miles work BUT not Membership Rewards transfers.</p>
<p>One thing to note though is the ability to XFR Starwood points&#8230; You can transfer Membership Rewards to Starpoints then Starpoints at a 1 : 1 into Delta Miles&#8230;.</p>
<p>PLUS with a 20K Starpoints XFR you get a 5K bonus. So you could XFR 80K Membership Rewards to Startpoints then to Delta earning 100K Delta Miles.</p>
<p>Then transfer those over to your account.</p>
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		<title>By: ptahcha</title>
		<link>http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2008/11/20/my-delta-bonus-plan-make-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-12994</link>
		<dc:creator>ptahcha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 19:48:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky - one hitch with your plan:  AMEX Membership Rewards is not included as one of the eligible partners.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky &#8211; one hitch with your plan:  AMEX Membership Rewards is not included as one of the eligible partners.</p>
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		<title>By: lucky</title>
		<link>http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/2008/11/20/my-delta-bonus-plan-make-sense/comment-page-1/#comment-12967</link>
		<dc:creator>lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:52:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hobo13 -- point taken. :)

Ace, to be clear, it&#039;s a 150% bonus, not 150% of the total miles. So a 150% bonus is the same as multiplying it by 2.5, which is the base plus bonus.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hobo13 &#8212; point taken. <img src='http://boardingarea.com/blogs/onemileatatime/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Ace, to be clear, it&#8217;s a 150% bonus, not 150% of the total miles. So a 150% bonus is the same as multiplying it by 2.5, which is the base plus bonus.</p>
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		<title>By: Ace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:16:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;It is indeed 23,000(what’s currently in my mom’s account)+75,000×1.3(the AMEX transfer bonus)x2.5(the DL transfer bonus), which comes out to 300,000.&quot;

Lucky - where are you getting a factor of 2.5?  I believe the bonus Delta will provide is 150%.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;It is indeed 23,000(what’s currently in my mom’s account)+75,000×1.3(the AMEX transfer bonus)x2.5(the DL transfer bonus), which comes out to 300,000.&#8221;</p>
<p>Lucky &#8211; where are you getting a factor of 2.5?  I believe the bonus Delta will provide is 150%.</p>
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		<title>By: hobo13</title>
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		<dc:creator>hobo13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:47:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ben --

Now perhaps you can start to understand some more why some of us NW elites are less than thrilled by the DL takeover.  They print miles like candy, and devaluation is right around the corner!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ben &#8211;</p>
<p>Now perhaps you can start to understand some more why some of us NW elites are less than thrilled by the DL takeover.  They print miles like candy, and devaluation is right around the corner!</p>
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		<title>By: lucky</title>
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		<dc:creator>lucky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 14:46:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for explaining that, Brandon Worrell. It is indeed 23,000(what&#039;s currently in my mom&#039;s account)+75,000x1.3(the AMEX transfer bonus)x2.5(the DL transfer bonus), which comes out to 300,000.

Same here, DiscoPapa, but for this kind of a deal I&#039;ll find a creative way. The way I look at it the 75,000 mile conversion is for a business class ticket to Europe (which is a fair deal, in my opinion), and then it&#039;s basically like buying two business class tickets to Europe for $660 each. That&#039;s really quite a deal.

Oliver, that&#039;s a great question; I wish I knew the answer. It seems to me like DL must value their miles really really low, since they have so many tiers of awards and relatively speaking, awards are difficult to get. I&#039;m willing to bet that a majority of people burn their miles on domestic tickets at the standard level, so DL&#039;s cost is next to nothing.

So to answer your question, it seems to me like DL is &quot;absorbing&quot; the cost of the 150% bonus, and just happy to be getting the revenue from partners like SPG for the transfers, bonuses, etc. I would be really curious to know how much DL sells their miles for to partners.

Andy, I&#039;m still working on that. More to come on that shortly.

Alex, hmm, have I been reading this wrong all along?

It seems to say:
&quot;Shopping and Others: 
1-800-FLOWERS.COM; Aquasana; Bose; Bosley; Buy/Gift Miles; Clear; DHL Express; e-Miles; e-Rewards; FTD.com; getAbstract; Gourmet Center (Biscoff); Hartmann Luggage; Hartwick &amp; Grove Wine Merchants; Java City; LATHER; LimoRes; Network Solutions; Organic Bouquet; Organic Style; Samsonite; SkyMall; SkyMiles Clothing Care; SkyMilesShopping.com; SkyMiles Shopping UK; The SkyMiles Store; Teleflora; Transfer Miles; Vinesse Wine Clubs. &quot;

The second to last one says &quot;Transfer Miles,&quot; so wouldn&#039;t it be safe to assume that&#039;s transferring between accounts?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for explaining that, Brandon Worrell. It is indeed 23,000(what&#8217;s currently in my mom&#8217;s account)+75,000&#215;1.3(the AMEX transfer bonus)x2.5(the DL transfer bonus), which comes out to 300,000.</p>
<p>Same here, DiscoPapa, but for this kind of a deal I&#8217;ll find a creative way. The way I look at it the 75,000 mile conversion is for a business class ticket to Europe (which is a fair deal, in my opinion), and then it&#8217;s basically like buying two business class tickets to Europe for $660 each. That&#8217;s really quite a deal.</p>
<p>Oliver, that&#8217;s a great question; I wish I knew the answer. It seems to me like DL must value their miles really really low, since they have so many tiers of awards and relatively speaking, awards are difficult to get. I&#8217;m willing to bet that a majority of people burn their miles on domestic tickets at the standard level, so DL&#8217;s cost is next to nothing.</p>
<p>So to answer your question, it seems to me like DL is &#8220;absorbing&#8221; the cost of the 150% bonus, and just happy to be getting the revenue from partners like SPG for the transfers, bonuses, etc. I would be really curious to know how much DL sells their miles for to partners.</p>
<p>Andy, I&#8217;m still working on that. More to come on that shortly.</p>
<p>Alex, hmm, have I been reading this wrong all along?</p>
<p>It seems to say:<br />
&#8220;Shopping and Others:<br />
1-800-FLOWERS.COM; Aquasana; Bose; Bosley; Buy/Gift Miles; Clear; DHL Express; e-Miles; e-Rewards; FTD.com; getAbstract; Gourmet Center (Biscoff); Hartmann Luggage; Hartwick &amp; Grove Wine Merchants; Java City; LATHER; LimoRes; Network Solutions; Organic Bouquet; Organic Style; Samsonite; SkyMall; SkyMiles Clothing Care; SkyMilesShopping.com; SkyMiles Shopping UK; The SkyMiles Store; Teleflora; Transfer Miles; Vinesse Wine Clubs. &#8221;</p>
<p>The second to last one says &#8220;Transfer Miles,&#8221; so wouldn&#8217;t it be safe to assume that&#8217;s transferring between accounts?</p>
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		<title>By: Alex</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 13:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lucky -

Read a lot about this on FT and other boards, but I still can&#039;t find in the T&amp;C&#039;s where it says that the bonus is valid on mileage transfers.

I see...

&quot;Then, between November 13 and December 31, 2008, you&#039;ll earn up to a 150% mileage bonus for doing business with a partner, converting partner points into miles, or buying miles.&quot;

Nothing about transfers, and Delta isn&#039;t listed as one of the partners.  Can you point me to it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lucky -</p>
<p>Read a lot about this on FT and other boards, but I still can&#8217;t find in the T&amp;C&#8217;s where it says that the bonus is valid on mileage transfers.</p>
<p>I see&#8230;</p>
<p>&#8220;Then, between November 13 and December 31, 2008, you&#8217;ll earn up to a 150% mileage bonus for doing business with a partner, converting partner points into miles, or buying miles.&#8221;</p>
<p>Nothing about transfers, and Delta isn&#8217;t listed as one of the partners.  Can you point me to it?</p>
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		<title>By: Andy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 12:20:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give up on trying for a credit card signup bonus on this one?  I know there was some uncertainty about it on FT...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Give up on trying for a credit card signup bonus on this one?  I know there was some uncertainty about it on FT&#8230;</p>
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