Key Link: Citibank Hilton Reserve Visa

Ever since American Express came out with the ‘Surpass’ co-branded Hilton card, I’ve been a Hilton Diamond member. That card gives you Gold the first year free, or $20,000 annual gets Gold and $40,000 spent on the card gets you Diamond.

Admittedly $40,000 is a lot of spend, but I wanted top tier with Hilton, it’s my ‘backup’ hotel program, since it’s really improved quite a bit as an overall program over the past couple of years.

See, I like Hyatt Gold Passport and Starwood Preferred Guest the best, I find that overall their properties are better and elite treatment offers the best value. But they’re both smaller chains than Priority Club, Marriott, and Hilton. Sometimes you just have to travel somewhere that there’s no Hyatt or Starwood. And in those cases, for a frequent traveler, it’s important to have a backup.

Some people choose Hilton, Marriott, or Priority Club precisely because they’re everywhere, so they earn status with that program. I am a bit too aspirational in my stays and my award desires, so I can’t quite do that. But I don’t want to walk into a small town and have no recognition, either.

That’s why I make an effort to ‘earn’ status with Hilton through credit card spend.

But I’m giving up on Diamond. The Surpass card gave me Gold at $20,000, Diamond was ‘just’ an additional $20,000.

Now Citibank has come out with the Hilton Reserve Visa which gives you Gold just for having the card, no spend required. That makes Diamond an incremental $40,000. And Diamond isn’t that much better than Gold. Considering the tradeoffs in stays or spend, Hilton Gold really is the sweetspot, the best elite HHonors level to have. Which makes this card a killer app for travel.

I’ve already earned Diamond for next year, so I won’t be getting the Reserve card yet. I’ll wait until my status drops down. But it’s clearly the go-to card, something that anyone who approaches travel the way I do should get. It’s a $95 annual fee, and that gives you Gold status. Period. The free nights the card earns are worth more than the fee, of course. But the fee along for Gold is an easy decision, since Gold gets you free breakfast, free internet, and upgrades. You can break even on a single stay quite easily, stay more than once a year at Hilton and there’s no excuse not to be Gold if you are in a position to get this card.

The card offers:

  • Two free weekend nights after $2500 in spending as a signup bonus
  • Gold status as long as you have the card or Diamond status after $40,000 spend
  • No foreign currency transaction fees
  • 10 points per dollar spent at Hilton, 5 points per dollar on airline and rental car spend, 3 points on everything else
  • An annual free weekend night each year you put $10,000 on the card

One Mile at a Time and I had a debate where he argued that HHonors points are worth 0.8 cents apiece, 3 HHonors points per dollar amounts to a 2.4% rebate which is as valuable or more valuable than any card for spending. I argue that HHonors points are worth less than that, but the free night after $10,000 in spending makes this card exceptionally valuable to put $10k on, probably the most valuable use of $10,000 in spending you can have besides using that spend strictly to meet the requirements of signup bonuses.

So it’s a strong card, but my argument here is limited to status.

And about making the case that Gold is the sweet spot in the HHonors program, going for Diamond is probably a waste.

  • Diamond status normally requires 28 stays, 60 nights or $10,000 in spending with Hilton (if you didn’t earn it via the credit card)
  • Gold status normally requires 16 stays, 36 nights, or $6000 in spending with Hilton (if you didn’t earn it via the credit card)

Given how easy it is to get these status levels, it seems crazy to me to actually stay at Hilton hotels to earn status unless you have no choice. Stay with Starwood or Hyatt, and pay $95 a year for Hilton Gold with this credit card.

Let’s compare benefits:

  • Bonus points: 25% for Golds, 50% for Diamonds
  • Lounge access:Golds get Executive floor upgrades when available, Diamonds get access to the club even if no upgrade
  • Breakfast:When there’s no Executive lounge, or Golds don’t have access, both sets of elites get (technically continental) breakfast
  • Upgrades: Language for both Golds and Diamonds are murky, even Diamond upgrades aren’t guaranteed but no longer exclude suites in the terms and conditions (but suites aren’t an entitlement, either). In practice I find the upgrades similar. Upgrades apply only at Conrads, Hiltons, and Doubletrees.
  • Internet: Both Golds and Diamonds get free internet
  • Points amenity: Diamonds get 1000 bonus points per stay, Golds would have to give up breakfast to get the points

Ultimately the difference between Gold and Diamond isn’t that great, and if Hilton isn’t your ‘primary’ program it’s not worth going to much extra effort for most folks to get there. Some hotels do go above and beyond for Diamonds, but in terms of what you are entitled to expect there’s only a little daylight between the two levels.

If you do stay at Hiltons, getting the Citi Hilton Reserve Visa is probably a no-brainer for the 10 points per dollar on Hilton spend, and you might even make the $10,000 or much of it on heavily bonused spending.

If you don’t stay at Hiltons regularly, it seems worth getting the card, hitting the $2500 minimum spend on the two nights, and then possibly making it to $10,000 for the extra free night but then putting it in a drawer.

Unquestionably the introduction of this card means that I’m going to stop spending on my Surpass card, something I’ve done for 2012 anyway now that I’ve put $40,000 spending on the card — but I won’t use it next year, I’ll cancel instead (after transferring all of the credit off the card, since American Express allows you to move your credit lines around on their website again). I do still have the ‘free’ Hilton American Express (non-Surpass) from before the Surpass card came out, I haven’t used it in years but there’s been no reason to cancel. I have the credit line down to $1000. I’ll keep it in a drawer, if only to continue to have access to ‘AXON’ discounted awards.

But the only ‘value for your dollar’ elite level with HHonors is Gold, Diamond doesn’t get you much more and Silver only really gets you access to discounted elite multi-night redemptions. Take this card, get your Gold status locked in, and then stay where you wish… (Some will even use the Gold status to match to other hotel programs, though there are fewer programs where having Gold without stays will get you a match, in part because status challenges have become a common replacement for matches and in part because Marriott doesn’t generally even ask for proof of status with asking for the challenge.)

And at the end of the day, you take your free nights or points from the card and the occasional stay where you use your status, and burn them at Conrads in Asia which are overall spectacular and also a reasonable value on points.

(Note: the Citibank Hilton Reserve Visa offers a referral credit to me if you use my link, which provides the best current offer for the card. I do appreciate it if you choose to use my link to sign up.)

  1. Andre said,

    Wow, the title is good. However I’ve stayed at Conrads in Asia this year and they were too full to give me an Executive, not even pay up. I’d definitely pay a little more to alwayd have executive on award and P+M.

    Never been told it was too busy to access executive as Diamond. The rest of your evaluation is pretty acurate, but status at Hilton is about upgrades, lounges and Internet. Then also breakfast if non-exec.

  2. Hank said,

    How is the annual free night after $10,000 in spend a good deal, as you have to pay the $95 fee to get it (as well as waste $10k of spend that could have gone on say an SPG card)?

  3. sbjnyc said,

    I recently stayed at Hilton products for 10 nights since I got the reserve card and 3 nights upcoming (all in time for the 3x promo). The 2 nights in the US got me 2 continental breakfasts and 1 suite upgrade to the executive floor (Doubletree). The 8 nights in Europe all gave full breakfast buffets and a 3 night stay in the executive floor but no suite upgrades. That place (Rotterdam) had an executive lounge but it was being renovated so we ate at the restaurant witht the other guests. The card works really well. Internet in European hotels, not so much.

  4. MilesQuest said,

    Gary – do you know if the free Hilton Amex is eligible for small business Saturday stuff? I’m tempted to switch to Visa, but want to cash in on Small Business Saturday with all my authorized users.

  5. BR said,

    Is that free Gold status with the Visa Infinite card still active?

  6. Zz said,

    On a related note, most of these chains have rather few properties in Europe (and that are reasonably priced <$250/night). I travel there for a week about ~10x a year. What chain would you recommend? Priority Club hotels appear to have the greatest presence, but I am not a big fan of their program.

  7. Dave said,

    @Hank – the earned weekend night isn’t category restricted, although there are some limits. In theory you could redeem it for a high dollar night which means your 10K of spend would get at least 30K in points (100K if it was all at Hilton) plus a night that migh be worth $3-400. If you use Gary 0.5cpp value you are looking at least 150+300 or 4.5% per dollar of spend. Not bad. On the high end, say a 450/night room and 50K of points due to car rentals, some Hilton stays etc) and you are up to a 6% yield on your spend, less the annual fee if you don’t soak that up in free breakfast and internet.

    Its on my radar for 2013, depending on whether my company moves their overseas corporate offices, which the no forex and 10 points/$ would be appealing (there is a doubletree at the current spot, but it may be moved to a town without chain hotels, ugh).

  8. Dan said,

    Gary,

    I think you were off just ever so slightly on one important detail: Gold upgrades. Golds no longer get upgraded to the executive floor “if available,” they get upgraded as long as the hotel has chosen to offer that upgrade to their guests. For my upcoming stay at the Conrad Hong Kong, NOR1 is *not* offering me a free upgrade to the executive floor. They want me to pay. Contrast that to the Millenium BKK, which *is* offering me a free upgrade, if available at time of check-in.

    Any bets on how much longer free breakfast will last with all of the new-found golds diluting the pool?

  9. Gary said,

    @BR – most recent reports no, until recently yes, haven’t been able to try it myself since i don’t have anyone else to try it for….

  10. Gary said,

    @Hank – you pay the $95 fee to keep Gold, so at the margin a free night after 10k in spend plus the points from that spend is hardly a waste… think of it as 4 or 5 bonus points per dollar on that first 10k of spend

  11. rob said,

    How do you get free breakfast at HIlton hotels in gold status?

    The reservation desk agent will give you coupon for free breakfast at the hotel or you should see the free breakfast option when booking the room online?

    Is the breakfast free at all hilton hotels around the world for gold member?

    I have hilton gold status but no hilton cards.
    I have vacation coming up to BANGKOK and might stay for 5 nights at the conrad hilton there.
    pls advice
    thanks

  12. Ray said,

    Just got the card. Posting here because I want to be notified of future comments…

  13. audisfo said,

    I am wondering how you can transfer your credit limit among your cards on American Express website??

  14. Heather said,

    I used the free Hilton Amex for Small Business Saturday last year–twice, since my husband was an authorized user and had a unique card number.

  15. Toula said,

    Dan, we stayed at the Conrad Hong Kong last month, did a 4 night points redemption and were automatically upgraded to the Executive floor as Gold. Given access to the club plus free internet, no action required on our behalf to make it happen.

  16. Nick said,

    I only need 2 more stays (or 30 nights) to qualify for HH Gold again by the end of the year. I have 2 so far, and currently have gold status from the Signature visa credit card challenge last year. Is it always this easy to maintain HH gold?

  17. Lark said,

    “Given how easy it is to get these status levels, it seems crazy to me to actually stay at Hilton hotels to earn status unless you have no choice. Stay with Starwood or Hyatt, and pay $95 a year for Hilton Gold with this credit card.”

    My Ritz-Carlton Rewards card is having the same impact on my RC/Marriott stays… I get Gold (RC and Marriott) with minimum spend on the card, and this is good enough – I don’t need to push to qualify for Platium.

    Getting this card has caused me to spend less nights in Marriott/RC properties.

    So, Marriott is still my primay program, but I have now qualified for Fairmont Platinum (stays), and Hilton Diamond (21 nights in 90 days challenge).

    I have Hyatt Plat through their card too, so don’t feel the pressure to stay at Hyatt’s to earn status.

    So, I think this ‘status with a card’ may have some unintended consequences that the hotels and credit card companies will have to figure out how to handle.

  18. Jeffrey said,

    Your title is misleading. In all situations Diamond benefits exceed Gold. Therefore, there is no case when staying at any Hilton property that Gold (and not Diamond) is the best status.

  19. Mark said,

    @Gary – HHonors Gold and Diamond elites are also eligible for upgrades at Waldorf Astoria properties.

  20. Kevin said,

    @Milesquest

    On the last SBS, I was able to take part in the SBS refund with my free Hilton Amex. I got free liquor from the local mom and pop liquor store that took Amex.

    I also have been using the Facebook/Twitter Sync offers in the last one was free $5 at McDonalds when you spent $5.

  21. theblakefish said,

    You say that the features of the Hilton card “makes this card a killer app for travel.”

    C’mon Gary…take it easy on the adjectives…absolutely nothing Hilton does or offers is “Killer”.

  22. chitownflyer said,

    Hilton’s HHonors program is one of the best hotel loyalty programs. Golds get free brekfast and internet, and a room upgrade which can be to the Executive floor if available. Diamonds get all the Gold benefits and can be upgraded to suites.

    The experience for Golds and Diamonds may often be better at Hilton’s international locations, where the good hotels will offer Executive lounge acess and the full breakfast buffet. I have been upgraded to suites both domestically and internationally at Hiltons. AFAIK, Hyatt only offers 4 confirmed suite upgrades. Hiltons are often priced less than SPG, Hyatt, and others, and their bonus points or free nights offers can result in earning double triple, or even quadruple points.

    If a Diamond, you can choose points and points and earn 20 points per dollar spent. A double or triple points promo means a Diamond can earn 30 or 40 per dollar spent. Then consider that holders of the basic Hilton AMEX earn 6 points per dollar spent, and Amex Surpass and Citi Hilton HHonors Reserve Visa both earn 10 points per dollar spent. This adds up to a lot of points. In the past two years, Hilton has also offered the stay 10 nights or 4 stays and earn a free night valid at any Hilton worldwide. AXON 7 or GLON Category 7 multi night award stays result in a Categroy 7 hotel costing 36,000-37,500 points per night for a 4 or more night stay.

    In 2011, I stayed at the Waldorf Rome Cavallieri on a New Years pre paid rate of 185 Euros for six nights, and I earned quadruple points and the Diamond bonus which resulted in earning 100,000 points including the points earned from the Hilton Amex. Now whom says Hilton doesn’t offer any points?

  23. John said,

    How funny…As I read through the threads, most of you who are “status aspirationists” (can i coin that word?) tend to not use the property once you hit a certain level, i.e. platinum or what have you. Isn’t it the point of having to enjoy the status and not just to attain it? I don’t spend 100+ nights a year in a hotel room, so I don’t know, It seems rather quirky to me, because you go through that process every year just to get the status the next year…etc…

  24. Carl said,

    @John – fully agree, chasing status is usually a fool’s errand. But in this case, if they are giving it for $95, and one gets free internet and free breakfast, even a couple of nights a year at a Conrad/Hilton/Doubletree will recoup that cost, given that internet/breakfast can run $50 night or more combined. And they do have some nice aspirational properties and the benefits are also applicable on award stays.

  25. German Expat said,

    Gold worked well for me on my last 2 stays. Conrad Sania and Conrad Tokyo. Both times was upgraded and the Conrad in Tokyo put us on the Executive floor.
    I don’t stay enough at (branded) hotels anymore to have any status and the new Citi card is a good way to get status for only 95$.

  26. C&C said,

    I never understood why you cannot earn Diamond with the original (free) Hilton AmEx with $40K spend, but you can earn Gold with $20K spend. I wish Hiton would just do the same for all of their cards.

  27. JohnnieD said,

    At the Sydney Hilton, being Gold got my wife a high floor room with a view and access to the restaurant breakfast buffet. She said it was the best breakfast buffet she has ever eaten at in her life…….

  28. rob said,

    This mother fucccker GARY never answers any question, this time and last time also.

    I am out of this page!

  29. Boraxo said,

    I will probably get the Citi card if I fail to re-qual for Gold though $95/yr is pretty steep if you don’t get a free room every year (compare to Chase IC @ $49/yr and Chase Marriott @ $75/yr – both with free nights on renewal).

    So far HH Gold treatment reminds me of Marriott Plat – plenty of bonus points but otherwise nothing special, no upgrades, no suites. YMMV.

  30. C&C said,

    @Rob – Geesh, a little harsh, don’t you think??

  31. Lee said,

    @Gary

    Lark mentioned above that hiss ritz-carlton card got him Marriott gold. If getting Marriott or Hilton gold is a matter of getting the credit card, paying the annual fee and running 10k through it, how would you compare Marriott and Hilton’s gold levels? Is one significantly better than the other in terms of benefits?

    Also how would you rank Hyatt Platinum and Starwood Gold, which are also obtainable from credit cards? Who would be 1st, 2nd, 3rd and 4th?

  32. Gary said,

    @Lee Hilton is the best program at the mid-tier level. Marriott doesn’t give breakfast on weekends or at resorts.

    I’d rank Hilton Gold then Marriott Gold, Starwood Gold marginally better than Hyatt Platinum

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